CleanSimon
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So we all try to get super light sleeping bags but carry a down jacket too. Surely some down trousers and booties to go with the jacket would be lighter and cover better than a down bag would? Anyone already tried this?
Try it?So we all try to get super light sleeping bags but carry a down jacket too. Surely some down trousers and booties to go with the jacket would be lighter and cover better than a down bag would? Anyone already tried this?
So we all try to get super light sleeping bags but carry a down jacket too. Surely some down trousers and booties to go with the jacket would be lighter and cover better than a down bag would? Anyone already tried this?
There's quite a few ultra racing bike folk who use down clothing and a bivvy bag/vbl liner as a sleep system, but those guys are grabbing minimal shut eye over the course of an event, I suppose if you were in that (ultra misery ) mindset for hiking then why not.
Yebbut some of them are happy to sleep on a roll of bubblewrap in a bus shelter!There's quite a few ultra racing bike folk who use down clothing and a bivvy bag/vbl liner as a sleep system, but those guys are grabbing minimal shut eye over the course of an event, I suppose if you were in that (ultra misery ) mindset for hiking then why not.
More civilised than sleeping in a bush I'll have you knowYebbut some of them are happy to sleep on a roll of bubblewrap in a bus shelter!
Off topic (sleeping mats) but, last time I slept at a bus stop a roll of bubble wrap for the concrete bench would have been sheer luxury.Yebbut some of them are happy to sleep on a roll of bubblewrap in a bus shelter!
I’m sorry but this may come across as controversial and I mean it in no way confrontational but why would you even want to consider it? Even if there was only a small reduction in sleeping comfort Is the need to shave a few 100 grams from a carrying weight absolutely that necessary? I for one wouldn’t have a clue if my water bottle had 700ml of water in it or a litre whilst carrying it all day.
Appreciate if you’re racing and already a finely tuned athlete then marginal gains matter but do they really mater that much to average joe hill Walker?
Depends on the other uses of the bus shelter...More civilised than sleeping in a bush I'll have you know
I guess unbecoming things can and have happened in bothDepends on the other uses of the bus shelter...
Down trousers are a very useful dual use item for any sleep system - doesn't need to be half bags. My down trowsers keep me warm on breaks (I'm a warm hiker and cold sitter), mornings and evenings and I can pack a lighter quilt and only take light pants to hike in - its a win win
No to your average walker it would definitely not matter, totally agree just seemed a logical theory : )I’m sorry but this may come across as controversial and I mean it in no way confrontational but why would you even want to consider it? Even if there was only a small reduction in sleeping comfort Is the need to shave a few 100 grams from a carrying weight absolutely that necessary? I for one wouldn’t have a clue if my water bottle had 700ml of water in it or a litre whilst carrying it all day.
Appreciate if you’re racing and already a finely tuned athlete then marginal gains matter but do they really mater that much to average joe hill Walker?