TGC Challenge 2015- Potential Kit List

[theoctagon]

Love a good kit list

 

[Gazelle]

Which Haglofs trousers?

 

[kiltedpict]

Mid Flex. I have the Rugged Mountain ones too which I love, but far too heavy and robust for 2 weeks in May..

 

[Gazelle]

I like their corduroy trousers they released this year - not too heavy and smart enough for the pub.

 

[kiltedpict]

After some thoughs and tweaking this might end up being the final list

Revised TGO Kit List for 2015


Carry:

Rucksack- Montane Grand Tour 55l

OMM chest pouch

Pacer Poles

Shelter/sleeping:

Scarp 1 Tent

PHD Custom sleeping Bag

Exped SynMat

Exped Pillow

polycro ground sheet

Mid-weight Merino top

Merino long johns

Microfiber cloth (to dry tent)

Cooking:

Kovea Spider stove, lighter & back up sparker

MSR Titan Kettle

Windshield

250 gas can

X-Mug

Optimus neoprene pouch

Long Handled spoon

Swiss Featherlight Knife

Hydration:

Raidlite water bottle and holder

Sawyer mini filter & 2l pouch

Roll flat bottle (probably containing a single malt)

Clothes- Wearing:

Boxers

Socks thick & thin

Trail Shoes

Merino / Bamboo top

Haglofs Mid Flex trousers

Scree / Ankle Gaiters

Windproof top

Clothes- Spare:

Boxers x 1

Socks x 1 pr thin & thick

Vivo Ultra's

Waterproofs/insulation:

Haglofs waterproof trousers

Mountain Hardwear Paclite jacket

Waterproof mitts

Seal Skin Socks

Liner gloves

Montane Prism Gloves

Buff x2

Rab Inferno jacket

Personal/Safety:

Maps (Custom, printed on waterproof paper)

Compass

Whistle

Samsung Galaxy S5 & cable (Gps- Viewranger on phone)

Earphones

Spare battery and charger

Petzl e light

leatherman micra

Sunglasses

Tilley Hat

Notepad & Pen

Hygiene/FAK:

Tooth brush & small paste

Dr Bronners peppermint soap in small bottle

Small pack towel (facecloth size)

Deodorant

Foot cream (in film canister)

Foot Balm (in film canister)

Foot Powder

FAK- Customised, including normal meds and compeed

Sun cream

Lip Balm

Toilet Pack (blizzard stake, paper, wipes, zip lock bags and hand gel)

FOOD:

Carrying 3 days:

3 x breakfasts

3 x lunch (mix of trail mix, soups, oatcakes)

3 x tea (mains and puddings)

9 x coffee sachets

Bolero drink sachets

 

[Shewie]

Good looking list KP, not sure I'd change much on there. I'd maybe switch your 500ml container for a 2L roll up bladder for water in camp.

I fancy having another go at the TGO

 

[kiltedpict]

i wondered about that, and that was the plan before i remembered about the dram! Assuming the filter fits my source containers, then I'll do that for sure.

Cheers to all for your tips and thoughts.

S

 

[kiltedpict]

Ill put up a post with the route etc next week.

 

[Teepee]

Looks good to me KP. I'd take a change of footwear too, I really appreciate it at night.

Only one thing I'd say to take and that's an extra source of ignition for the stove. I'd take at least 2 lighters or a ferro/matches/sparker. Amazing how their propensity to fail increases with their importance.

 

[kiltedpict]

Aye Teepee- the Vivo Ultra's are my spare shoes and I do have a Piezo sparker think that came with the stove too- forgot to write it down but it lives in the bag so would be there if the lighter fails.

 

[edh]

Two knives?

There's a few things I wouldn't take - but it is all down to individual preferences really.

 

[kiltedpict]

I see what your saying about "2 knives", however, the micra is more for the scissors, and dumping the Swiss knife would only save 12g. So for the ease of cutting fresh food with a decent knife I feel it's worth it.

What else would you drop from the list?

 

[Mole]

looks good. similar views to the others

Gearwise, I'd not take the polycro or the filter.
would take 2l platy for camp.

Clothing bed. last time I just took thin socks n Rab Aeon T.

But clothing worn, depends on how high you plan to go? some only do trails/ passes.... or the odd peak, others are spending a lot of time up high. I did a mixture.

I'd also take a light micro fleece
the fleece bridges the massive comfort gap (when moving) between just base layer and shell/windproof (sometimes not warm enough) and using the insulation layer (too warm).

Also though I get cold hands easily,
for me the prism gloves would be too warm much of the time. I take quick drying liners, buffalo mitts and Tuff bags. covers a lot of bases.

 

[kiltedpict]

So does anyone take anything to purify water? Admittedly this is only a concern (for me at least) toward the east, but having had a mate extremely ill from drinking water up in the gorms, it seems little effort to be safe?

I was out walking the other day around Clachnaben/Glen Dye and I wouldn't touch any of the water round there- so many sheep and the sh!t was everywhere!

I'm not sure I'll have room in my rucksack for a fleece I don't think- I'm an XXL so all my stuff takes up more room than I'd like but it's a good shout!

I have thin gloves but last time my hands were still cold- I agree the prisms might be too warm- I'll wait until nearer the time and check the forecast- don't really want to take 2 pairs, although if I loose a glove... Hmm...

As for night time- I'll see how things go nearer May, but it's not the warmest bag so will probably stick with the merino stuff (nice to put on if it's miserable in camp anyways).

 

[Shewie]

I carried a MSR Hyperflow filter on my crossing KP, I used it once towards the end of the trip when we were nearing the coast. Bob Cartwright told me to drop it off my list but at 220g I didn't mind the penalty for peace of mind, if was going again I don't think I'd bother.

If the 65g Sawyer was available when I went I'd probably have taken that instead.

I wore a merino base layer with a Montane Fury fleece as a mid, with a Fireball smock for the colder days and evenings around camp. We had a mixed bag of weather but most days I wore the base, Fury and a windshirt, the second week was a scorcher with 20*c + most days.

 

[Teepee]

Some sort of water treatment to make it potable is a no brainer to me. Peace of mind, abiltiy to take from less than ideal sources, huge weight saving on fuel for brews as the water doesn't need boiling but then I drink a fair bit of coffee.

Only cold temps where there is regular danger of freezing or if I know the area very well do I not bother with a filter. I always carry some treatment tabs anyway as backup.

Chances are I've built up a good bit of resistance over the years but my experience of having explosive reverse parking on trips and having it reduce my enjoyment of said trip leaves it's mark on my views.

 

[edh]

So long as it only leaves a mark on your views

 

[Shewie]

if only I knew where that quinze photo was

 

[Teepee]

It's in the internet ether dude, filed at the back.

Which is what that Quinzee actually did to me. Emergency wiping materials come in a variety of shapes and sizes, I've used better.

 

[gixer]

Another vote for a water filter here, i don't drink anything that's not been filtered any more.
I think once you've been ill as the result of drinking dodgy water it tends to sway you that way, kinda like ex-smokers.

Wish i could help on choosing between the mini and the squeeze, i tend to sway between them both.
Sometimes i happily I eat the weight penalty and use the Sawyer squeeze rather than the mini (i find it just flows better for longer).
Sometimes the weight saving of the mini gets me.
The Mini weighs 51g wet the squeeze 96g wet.

 

[edh]

I'd drop...

Chest pouch...as it would bug me, I use ShStrap pocket for camera
Neo pouch...function?
Two knives...scalpel blade
Polycro
Vivos
Seal skins...both?
Waterproof troos...hate them, use a kilt
Prisms
1 Buff
Notepad...use phone voice recorder
Towel...you are waterproof

 

[el manana]

Looks a good list
Whats the spec of your custom bag?
Ditch whistle(one on chest strap?), one buff, swop liner gloves and prisms for a pair of power stretch (or just keep liners)...or don't bother, at the end of the day its all personal choice, these are pretty trivial suggestions.
Mole might have a point with a bit more insulation as an active layer, Rich seems to have the same view.

 

[edh]

They are slender Jessicas rather than 'real' men though.

 

[Mole]

s'true

In 2011, on one cold wet n very windy day I ended up for a while, wearing (damp) liner gloves under buffalo mitts under tuffbags, and was very happy to do so
and on one Cairngorm descent in a snow shower, I wore my Rab Photon over the waterproof, fleece and baselayer for 45 mins. Wouldn't have felt too happy without the warm layer though wouldn't have been 'in trouble'.

I often wore base, microfleece, montane pertex equilibrium windjacket, and waterproof. And as Ed will attest, I don't hang around.

 

[Quixoticgeek]

you'll struggle to get lighter than the swedish army folding kuksa, takes a 500ml brew for 42g. Its my goto backpacking mug.
Paracord goes in favour of polyester coated dyneema - english braids or similar - lighter, stronger and just as grippy

lexan hipflask would go in favour of roll up bottle (they are pretty though )

I like my folding kuksa, doubles as a bowl too.

If you wanted some of the English braids 2mm dyneema, I happen to have a large stock of the stuff. I've replaced all my paracord with it(anyone want my old paracord?)

Cheers Ross

If im using the iPhone with view ranger I'll need to see if I can get away without the charger!! Earphones are a must though- I even need to listen to music at home- I just cant get to sleep if someone is snoring!!

The problem with using viewranger on most smart phones is the battery life is truly pants. This may be something you need to consider.

The travel tap is my water bottle & thought the filter would be sensible when in the east / agricultural areas when its not advisable to fill up without some form of purification?

Isn't the Sawyer mini the defacto standard bit of kit we all agree on and own?

Flat plat I used a lot as a cutting board for chorizo, cheese etc last time (like fresh frood when I can get it, and I will die before i go away without a decent single malt so the hipflask stays too- its a holiday for me after all, not an extreme test of uncomfortable endurance!!

As for the CCF- nah, my days of them are long gone so for me, the Exped stays too!

Yeah, could drop the fire starting supplies.

Am I the only person that finds the simple luxury of being able to eat from a plate worth the few extra grams?

I love my exped synmat. If you did want to shed 100g, then swapping the pillow for the schnooozle dry bag might be worth considering. It's on my shopping list as an easy 100g in the not to distant future.

I have the same EDC fire kit, I use it a lot, if for nothing other than lighting my stoves. I got a version with the compass rather than the thermometer, I often use it if I just want a quick "which ways north"...

Julia