Odd Man
Thru Hiker
I had to do a MOQ with the Evazote supplier to get my hands on full size 3mm sheets, so I have a few spare now.
These are bulk sheets with unfinished edges, but doesn't affect the use. There is also some blemishes and fold marks, which is normal for this material (See photos).
The size of the pads can actually be up to 105 x 205 cm so there's space to trim the edges if needed.
I think this is why the GCG and GG pads are 50cm or under wide. The quality is very similar to Gram Counter Gear's pad I have. Compared to the GCG pad, the material is a tad more stretchy and have a bit more velvety feel, but the differences are minimal. They are nearly identical. I don't have experience of the GG pad, so can't comment on that. Outdoor Vitals seems to offer this product now as well.
Please note that this is Evazote, which is different from Plastazote, which is widely available on Ebay etc. I was unable to find Evazote in these sizes to buy individually, so I had to buy minimum order.
Plastazote is lighter weight and made in various densities from 15kg/m3 to 115kg/m3 and is also available with increased flame retardant properties. Evazote is similar but a tad tougher and more resilient. It comes in four standard densities- 30, 35, 45 and 50kg/m3.
The closed-cell sleeping pads from Multimat vary in their construction and their Extreme mats are Plastazote while their Summit mats have both Evazote and Plastazote layered together. Exped and Gram-Counter gear use Evazote for their pads, as do Gossamer Gear with their popular Thinlight pads, which they advertise as being only 1/8″ thick. This is a 3mm thick foam. At the other end of the spectrum the Mountain Equipment Co-op Winter pad was 15mm of Evazote. Any of these pads will likely last a lifetime of hiking, we can’t say that about inflatable pads.
Read more about the differences here: https://threepointsofthecompass.com/2020/09/27/gear-talk-zote-foams/
The options are
100 x 200cm (up to 105 x 205cm), weight around 196g (EFP30 Plastazote is 256g)
50 x 200cm (up to 52 x 205cm), weight around 98g
Asking £30 for the full sheet and £15 for the half plus postage.
Narrow folded is around £4 and wide rolled & folded is £5 with RM 2nd class, wide rolled is about £10 with Parcelforce in the UK.
Photos:
Top on is Gram Counter Gear, bottom on is the bulk pad.
Here's a side by side to Plastazote EFP30
Here's video of comparing the two.
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Here's a custom sleep pad made from the material for my Large Mariposa.
I had to cut the mat to 56 x 176cm so that it'd fit in the pad pocket. That makes it around 7 folds and equals the standard Mariposa back pad's thickness around 2cm.
These are bulk sheets with unfinished edges, but doesn't affect the use. There is also some blemishes and fold marks, which is normal for this material (See photos).
The size of the pads can actually be up to 105 x 205 cm so there's space to trim the edges if needed.
I think this is why the GCG and GG pads are 50cm or under wide. The quality is very similar to Gram Counter Gear's pad I have. Compared to the GCG pad, the material is a tad more stretchy and have a bit more velvety feel, but the differences are minimal. They are nearly identical. I don't have experience of the GG pad, so can't comment on that. Outdoor Vitals seems to offer this product now as well.
Please note that this is Evazote, which is different from Plastazote, which is widely available on Ebay etc. I was unable to find Evazote in these sizes to buy individually, so I had to buy minimum order.
Plastazote is lighter weight and made in various densities from 15kg/m3 to 115kg/m3 and is also available with increased flame retardant properties. Evazote is similar but a tad tougher and more resilient. It comes in four standard densities- 30, 35, 45 and 50kg/m3.
The closed-cell sleeping pads from Multimat vary in their construction and their Extreme mats are Plastazote while their Summit mats have both Evazote and Plastazote layered together. Exped and Gram-Counter gear use Evazote for their pads, as do Gossamer Gear with their popular Thinlight pads, which they advertise as being only 1/8″ thick. This is a 3mm thick foam. At the other end of the spectrum the Mountain Equipment Co-op Winter pad was 15mm of Evazote. Any of these pads will likely last a lifetime of hiking, we can’t say that about inflatable pads.
Read more about the differences here: https://threepointsofthecompass.com/2020/09/27/gear-talk-zote-foams/
The options are
100 x 200cm (up to 105 x 205cm), weight around 196g (EFP30 Plastazote is 256g)
50 x 200cm (up to 52 x 205cm), weight around 98g
Asking £30 for the full sheet and £15 for the half plus postage.
Narrow folded is around £4 and wide rolled & folded is £5 with RM 2nd class, wide rolled is about £10 with Parcelforce in the UK.
Photos:
Top on is Gram Counter Gear, bottom on is the bulk pad.
Here's a side by side to Plastazote EFP30
Here's video of comparing the two.
Odd Man And The Sea on Instagram: "Evazote EV30 on top, Plastazote EFP30 on the bottom. EV is more springy, more hardy and less prone to marking. More expensive. EFP has more ‘memory’, felt like top so marks easier and doesn’t return to form as w
11 likes, 8 comments - oddmanandtheseaFebruary 19, 2022 on : "Evazote EV30 on top, Plastazote EFP30 on the bottom. EV is more springy, more hardy and less prone to marking. More expensive. EFP ha..."
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Here's a custom sleep pad made from the material for my Large Mariposa.
I had to cut the mat to 56 x 176cm so that it'd fit in the pad pocket. That makes it around 7 folds and equals the standard Mariposa back pad's thickness around 2cm.
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