Got an ultralight folding camping chair?

[Alf Outdoors]

Well now you can buy an adjustable, folding, clip-on foot stool for it!

Costs a total of £11.22 on aliexpress, if you get one from TD Garden Store.

 

[ADz]

THIS is a UL camping chair

 

[Alf Outdoors]

I am aware of the Litesmith but I just don't like the idea that it is essentially sitting down in the dirt...So if you use it on wet grass, your going to get wet, and possibly covered in slugs. On sand your going to get covered in sand, and risk getting eaten alive by sand flies. On mud it would be very hard not to get covered in mud. You would be making it really easy for fleas, lice, mites and ticks.
You couldn't really sit right next to the sea or a river in it without your behind getting wet and if there is an ants nest nearby...Well you get the idea.
The only place I think it would be really be useful is inside my tent, say for sitting up for cooking, reading or filming for youtube etc, where it's away from the worst of the Bugs & the Slugs, and I'm guaranteed to stay clean and dry on it, but I don't really see it as an outdoors chair, like the Chair Zero is.
In fact I may just get one specifically for use inside my tent, if it's cheap enough, as propping myself up with my elbow can get pretty uncomfortable after a while...

 

[Hd8ekownio24ugh5]

I do like a footstool, but when they get an attachment on the arm rest to hold my stubby (bottle of beer) I'll be even more interested.

 

[Alf Outdoors]

I do like a footstool, but when they get an attachment on the arm rest to hold my stubby (bottle of beer) I'll be even more interested.

I don't know if a stubby will fit in it (as they don't list it's dimensions), but Helinox already do this clip on cupholder for the Chair Zero: https://helinox.eu/products/cup-holder?variant=39395032629326

Update: The cupholder itself is a reasonable £9.99, and I was just about to order one, but at checkout I was shocked that their only postage option was £15.05 flat rate with UPS, so the total would be over £25! Needless to say, I didn't bother.

 

[ADz]

I am aware of the Litesmith but I just don't like the idea that it is essentially sitting down in the dirt...So if you use it on wet grass, your going to get wet, and possibly covered in slugs. On sand your going to get covered in sand, and risk getting eaten alive by sand flies. On mud it would be very hard not to get covered in mud. You would be making it really easy for fleas, lice, mites and ticks.
You couldn't really sit right next to the sea or a river in it without your behind getting wet and if there is an ants nest nearby...Well you get the idea.
The only place I think it would be really be useful is inside my tent, say for sitting up for cooking, reading or filming for youtube etc, where it's away from the worst of the Bugs & the Slugs, and I'm guaranteed to stay clean and dry on it, but I don't really see it as an outdoors chair, like the Chair Zero is.
In fact I may just get one specifically for use inside my tent, if it's cheap enough, as propping myself up with my elbow can get pretty uncomfortable after a while...

I wouldn't be sat out in those areas anyway. The Qwikback is an alternative to being sat on floor but has added back rest and for dry conditions.


With regards to your tent, you have no groundshet in your tent/tarp except polycro as far as Im aware so it would be no different to putting some polycro under chair outside.

 

[Hd8ekownio24ugh5]

I don't know if a stubby will fit in it (as they don't list it's dimensions), but Helinox already do this clip on cupholder for the Chair Zero: https://helinox.eu/products/cup-holder?variant=39395032629326

Holy frijole.

 

[Alf Outdoors]

I wouldn't be sat out in those areas anyway. The Qwikback is an alternative to being sat on floor but has added back rest and for dry conditions.


With regards to your tent, you have no groundshet in your tent/tarp except polycro as far as Im aware so it would be no different to putting some polycro under chair outside.

I wouldn't be sat out in those areas anyway. The Qwikback is an alternative to being sat on floor but has added back rest and for dry conditions.


With regards to your tent, you have no groundshet in your tent/tarp except polycro as far as Im aware so it would be no different to putting some polycro under chair outside.

But without exposure to the wind, weather and bugs. I watched the video and I like the way it packs away into a built in sleeve. I don't have enough money to get one right now, and it has a 4 week lead time so I wouldn't be able to get one in a hurry if I did...Will have to find something else to sell to get the money together.

 

[Balagan]

So if you use it on wet grass, your going to get wet, and possibly covered in slugs. On sand your going to get covered in sand, and risk getting eaten alive by sand flies. On mud it would be very hard not to get covered in mud. You would be making it really easy for fleas, lice, mites and ticks.
You couldn't really sit right next to the sea or a river in it without your behind getting wet and if there is an ants nest nearby...Well you get the idea.

I've never been eaten by slugs, covered in ants, devoured by lice, gnawed by mites, harassed by sand flies or targeted by ticks in years and years of sitting my behind down on the ground, logs or stones, besides rivers or seas, in woods, alpine meadows, deserts or boulder fields. Granted, I did get my bottom damp once on a while.

 

[Taz38]

Sandflies and ants can be a real nuisance.

 

[Baldy]

 

[Alf Outdoors]

Well as the Helinox Cup holder is too expensive, thanks to ridiculous postage price, I decided to make my own.
I used some 21.5mm waste pipe, a 21.5mm waste Tee and I fashioned the ring holder out of 60mm drain pipe.
I don't know what the Helinox version weighs but mine weighs a total of 80g, and only cost a few pence.

It is in two parts...This is the bracket I slide on first (the same bracket is strong enough to hold arm rests, also made from 21.5mm waste pipe and fittings).



Then this holder slides onto the bracket, and I added a clear plastic tub, that drops in, which is perfect size to take my 300ml Titanium mug:



And with the mug on the holder:

 

[Bmblbzzz]

I have nothing much to say about the chair, but I approve of your garden.

 

[Bmblbzzz]

Actually I do have a similar chair. Not a Helinox, something cheaper(!) I think it's from Coleman but would have to check. I've used it about once, on a long weekend trip of cycle to site, spent a few pleasant days sitting in mud with mates chatting round a camp fire, drinking beer and eating burnt things. It's easy enough to strap it to the rack on the back of the bike and you don't notice the weight as much as if it was on your shoulders. For anything involving more movement I tend to take one of those little offcuts of folding foam things. Or just sit in the mud and get a wet @r53.... But if I'd been prepared to pay for a genuine Helinox, I guess I would actually use it!

 

[Alf Outdoors]

The point is it's so light you don't notice it on your back (it weighs less than a 500ml bottle of water), and it's always in my pack so I take it on every wild camp, even if I don't actually get to use it...Like when I went up Pen Y Fan...I couldn't use it to sit outside my tent that night as there was a severe storm outside after I set up, which went on all night. But if the weather had been better, and the visibility, I would have certainly used it to sit in comfort and take in the views.
I can't imagine not having it with me when camping, as I see it as an essential part of my ultralight kit.
I'm not happy with the weight of my cup holder though...80g is way too much (More than one of those Litesmith chairs!), so I am already planning a much lighter Mk2 version, that will hopefully pack even smaller too.

 

[ADz]

Well as the Helinox Cup holder is too expensive, thanks to ridiculous postage price, I decided to make my own.
I used some 21.5mm waste pipe, a 21.5mm waste Tee and I fashioned the ring holder out of 60mm drain pipe.
I don't know what the Helinox version weighs but mine weighs a total of 80g, and only cost a few pence.

It is in two parts...This is the bracket I slide on first (the same bracket is strong enough to hold arm rests, also made from 21.5mm waste pipe and fittings).



Then this holder slides onto the bracket, and I added a clear plastic tub, that drops in, which is perfect size to take my 300ml Titanium mug:



And with the mug on the holder:

That's not bad. You could also use one of those neoprene sleeves you can get for cans of coke or lager etc. It may be lighter if you could sew that straight on in some way or suspend it?

 

[ADz]

Here is a quick example. No idea on weight though.

Neoprene Beer Cooler Coozie Can Insulated Drink Holder Mug Sleeve BBQ Black | eBay

Fits snug around the beer bottle provides convenience to take. Perfect for parties, BBQ, family picnic, camping, and traveling. Material: Neoprene. 1 Piece Beer Can Sleeve. With no logo on sleeve for willing embroidery or DIY design.

www.ebay.co.uk

 

[Alf Outdoors]

Good idea but they are only 65mm diameter, which would be too small to hold my 300ml Ti mug. I was considering either having a mesh pocket sewn to the bottom of upper holder or drilling several holes around the ring and tying loops of shock cord between them.

 

[Odd Man]

That's not bad. You could also use one of those neoprene sleeves you can get for cans of coke or lager etc. It may be lighter if you could sew that straight on in some way or suspend it?

Neoprene, you mean DCF?

 

[ADz]

Good idea but they are only 65mm diameter, which would be too small to hold my 300ml Ti mug. I was considering either having a mesh pocket sewn to the bottom of upper holder or drilling several holes around the ring and tying loops of shock cord between them.

That was just an example of what I mant. There will be varying sizes.

 

[Odd Man]

That was just an example of what I mant. There will be varying sizes.

Titanium rod bent to a shape like a butterfly/insect net in appropriate size and mesh to keep the mug/pot in place

 

[Alf Outdoors]

I started on a Mk2 version today...Much simpler, stiffer and lighter than before. Have made the bracket on the chair 10g lighter just by ditching the Tee, and I will finish it tomorrow.

 

[Alf Outdoors]

Titanium rod bent to a shape like a butterfly/insect net in appropriate size and mesh to keep the mug/pot in place

That would make it too expensive...I'm trying to keep it as cheap as possible.

 

[JimH]

I have nothing much to say about the chair, but I approve of your garden.

I believe the current phrase for that is "rewilding"

 

[Alf Outdoors]

OK the Mk2 version is finished. The Mk1 weighed 73g and 80g with the tray insert, the Mk2 weighs 45g and 51g with the tray insert. Only way to make it lighter is to use Carbon Fibre tube for the bracket on the chair. I mostly used 21.5mm PVC waste pipe (about £1.84 for 3m) with a very short length of 25mm electrical conduit, (£2 for 2m). PVC is very cheap but clearly it's very heavy.