Darwin's Sun Hoody now available

Odd Man

Thru Hiker
I have one of those MeCo t-shirts / baselayer. I'd agree it dries quicker than pure merino, though not 5 times faster. But I find it less pleasant to wear – sweatier and, yes, a little itchy. And I don't find pure merino itchy or sweaty.

Sun hoody: TBH it's a new concept to me. I can see the idea, it's a sort of Western take on an Arab robe (I've forgotten the name but I'm sure you know the things I mean). As such it needs to be loose and breathable, suggesting merino could be a decent choice. For me, I'll probably stick with a broad-brimmed hat. One day, if I'm feeling rich, I might get myself a legendary Tilley hat (are they actually as good as the legend?). But I'm not feeling rich yet.

AFAIK, sun hoodies have been around quite awhile and mostly been used by fishermen and in other such sports. Before the hiker trend of sun hoodies, Columbia had their PFG fishing line with shirts and hoodies hikers adopted and used.
 

Bmblbzzz

Thru Hiker
Never been into fishing, so wouldn't know. But, it's often worth looking at other sports and activities for items that can be used in your own.
 

Robert P

Thru Hiker
Sun hoody: TBH it's a new concept to me. I can see the idea, it's a sort of Western take on an Arab robe (I've forgotten the name but I'm sure you know the things I mean). As such it needs to be loose and breathable, suggesting merino could be a decent choice. For me, I'll probably stick with a broad-brimmed hat. One day, if I'm feeling rich, I might get myself a legendary Tilley hat (are they actually as good as the legend?). But I'm not feeling rich yet.
Been using Tilley hats for 25 years now - most of the year, they also nicely reduce the need for a hood when raining. However, my neck and nose in particular can still catch the sun, so I sometimes use it in combination with a sun hoody.
 

Colombo

Trail Blazer
I can see the idea, it's a sort of Western take on an Arab robe (I've forgotten the name but I'm sure you know the things I mean).

The hoody keeps the tissue fairly near the neck, thus protecting better from mosquitoes and gnats but presumably letting air circulate less.
The Western take on Arab robe is IMHO the bandana on the rear brim, Légion étrangère style, which only sheds shade on the neck without preventing air circulation.

Yet, if the neck guard is sewed on the inner of the hat, it protects better from wind and sand, but it's less comfortable in hot weather IMO, breeze should easily get to the neck when it is really hot.
Large brim hats do cover all the neck if ever slightly tilted backward.
(Picture shown for illustration purposes only: https://www.uvskinz.com/products/wide-brim-field-hat )

I am toying with the idea of sewing a bandana on the back of a shorter-brim hat, but letting it hang from the brim, rather than from the inside of the hat. So far, though, I find that tilting the hat will generally work very well when the sun is high.
 
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old-skool-lite

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My mrs bought me a Tilley about 17 years ago. It was recently coveted by a Tilley enthusiast (who never has them off his head) as it's the now unavailable synthetic version. He'd worn his out & Tilley could only replace with a cotton one. I'm impressed he could wear one out.

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Robert P

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My mrs bought me a Tilley about 17 years ago. It was recently coveted by a Tilley enthusiast (who never has them off his head) as it's the now unavailable synthetic version. He'd worn his out & Tilley could only replace with a cotton one. I'm impressed he could wear one out.

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Synthetic ones still seem available, was it just a specific model that has been discontinued? I've worn out two cotton Tilley hats, the synthetic version seems to last longer (fabric less prone to rotting), but cotton better as a rain hat.
 

old-skool-lite

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Dunno. This was just a few months ago. He even knew the model number of the hat - maybe it was just that model of synthetic Tilley that was NLA. I took it that they didn't do one anymore.
 

Robin

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Staff member
I can’t get on with Tilley hats. Just don’t feel comfortable. I prefer a cap with a removable neck flap. Sun hoody is a good option too.
 

TinTin

Thru Hiker
The one I sold was a T3 Wanderer. No one needs two Tilley hats and the T4 fits me better the T3 has two low a crown for my bonce.

My current fave hat however is one of these, in a light colour with my shirt collar up when sunny:

I might add a couple of poppers to hang a hankie from.
 

Bmblbzzz

Thru Hiker
Well, you see, that illustrates the other reason I've never forked out for a Tilley hat. So many types, how can I choose? I did go up to Ellis Brigham earlier this year (they're near by), having seen them there in the past, but... they no longer stock them. "We can get one in for you if your order online."
 

cathyjc

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Well, you see, that illustrates the other reason I've never forked out for a Tilley hat. So many types, how can I choose? I did go up to Ellis Brigham earlier this year (they're near by), having seen them there in the past, but... they no longer stock them. "We can get one in for you if your order online."
It is a good idea to try before you buy to get the right one and size for you.
Search and see if you have a stockist near by - eg. hunting/shooting/fishing emporiums often have them.
 

Charlie83

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AFAIK, sun hoodies have been around quite awhile and mostly been used by fishermen and in other such sports. Before the hiker trend of sun hoodies, Columbia had their PFG fishing line with shirts and hoodies hikers adopted and used.
As a handsome well dressed fashonista fly fisherman I've been using the Columbia PFG shirts since the late 90s, i think i still have one or two battered ones around, they were before their time for comfort and protection, really hard to get hold of in the UK back then, but amazingly cheap in the states and a huge selection of colours. Columbia, like everyone else tinkered with the original and i don't care for them anymore, plus just about every other manufacturer has easily accessible versions these days.

I've changed to the Patagonia Sol Patrol, which although great for sitting afloat for 8 hours on an english reservoir in the sun, isn't that great as a hiking shirt. Id like it in a slightly thinner material for that, I also have the Patagonia tropic comfort sun hoody, but its also too thick a material for me to hike in (and very over sized).

For dedicated hiking sun shirts
I'm with the esteemed smelly weegie (well south of Perth) gentleman, I love the cormac hoody, i can find no fault with it and its so comfortable
Patagonia capilene cool daily hoody is a close second, i basically live in the non hoody versions, hard to get the hoody in the UK the last few years.
The OR echo is good, I like the material and weight, but i generate enough static to power a small city when wearing it, made the mistake of pulling a senchi alpha top over it once⚡💥⚡💥

Merino, still has its place for me, i have loads of the smart wool boxers which i like when I'm going to be away for a long time, and a few very thin tops, but it has absolutely no appeal as a sun hoody for me

what I've seen so far with Darwin's offerings, he seems to be re-inventing the wheel with his product lines, relying on his "fan base" to buy it or tell everyone its the next "thing", I used to really like him when he did hiking vids, but like most of the "youtubers", hiking content runs out and it becomes all about selling/recommending stuff that they have only just looked at for a day, i don't think I've seen any of them actually say, "this is p!sh, don't buy it"

anyway, sorry about the big post, bored at work

PS
did i ever mention i met Darwin on the EBC trail :), (seemed a nice enough lad, so i wish him every success in his business, although nothing I've seen from him is for me (so far).

Only got messner, Haze and edh to go for the full house
 

Bmblbzzz

Thru Hiker
Just going back to Tilley hats for a mo – today I walked past a group of three ladies evangelising for the Jehovah's Witnesses, right outside the Salvation Army shop (I'm not sure if this is church rivalry or cooperation... ). All three were wearing rather stylish straw boater-type hats. This reminded me of the Tilley hat situation – so I went into the SA shop, not expecting a Tilley of course but maybe some sort of summery hat. Nothing there. A few more charity shops, nothing. Then a rather battered one in Brandon for a fiver, claimed to be a "genuine Panama" from M&S (but surely a genuine Panama is not made of nylon?). Then a pile of brand new ones, also a fiver, in what I think was Marie Curie (so many chazzers, all alike after a while) but "one size fits all" was way too big. Then in a non-charity "retro vintage" place, some brand new bucket hats for a tenner. Almost got one with a sunflower design (having rejected the camouflage and magic mushroom patterns) – but then I thought, well it's a double layer of fairly thick material with no vents, it's going to provide shade but actually going to be quite hot. So I remembered my old cycling caps – of which I have at last count 13 (yes that's excessive but each relates to a particular club, event, etc – apart from the two which are identical :oops:). Thinner material, no all-round brim but peak shades face. Do we have a "Things I didn't buy today" thread?
 

Bmblbzzz

Thru Hiker
And on Saturday, wandering round Malmesbury with some camp mates, I bought... a hat. Not a Tilley, though I think the shop also had them, just a cheapie six quid bucket hat with a wide brim. Did a great job of shading me in the weekend sun, while making me look like a 90s raver, with about £70 change from a Tilley. :)
 
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