old-skool-lite
Thru Hiker
Bogtrotters advice is sound. Common sense dictates it doesn't apply to essentials. A caveat could be posted - didn't need a patronising rant.
Whats in the bag thread?
- Thread starter Jshdudhwodj
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echo8876
Thru Hiker
how do you know what's essential or not?
because even Skurka is stopped for days in absense of extra layers that he deemed non-essential with all his decades of experience.
this september i started my hike 20th, same as previous years, with the difference it was +20c this year, and -5c+ foot of snow previous. Same 20th of september.
old-skool-lite
Thru Hiker
Skurka having a bad holiday. It can happen to anyone.
echo8876
Thru Hiker
My main point being is that you can't theorise your way into outdoors. You can only see what works firsthand. Often things that shouldn't work do just fine, and great expectations from high end equipment are being crushed (hello scarpa phantom tech, i hate you).
WilliamC
Thru Hiker
The problem is, it seems to me, that you walk in very different circumstances from most of the members on the forum, then make pronouncements that come across as edicts that apply to everyone.
I also walk in different circumstances from most, though in a different way to you, and I try - not always successfully - to self-censor my comments accordingly.
BogTrotter
Thru Hiker
Just encouraging newcomers. I wouldn’t suggest that in taking items out for a weigh-in should be left out next trip. You pretty soon work out your pack could be lighter, without compromising warmth or safety.I believe if you’re just starting you’re allowed to weigh your pack when you get back taking out all the things you didn’t use. That’s worked for me for almost 50 years!
I would habitually take a 300g waterproof shell and 330g duvet jacket, then at the last minute throw in a Gote-Tex type lightweight insulated jacket. On those occasions neither the shell waterproof or duvet jacket would get used. So you do learn.
dovidola
Thru Hiker
I do believe, @cuprajake , there has been enough secrecy on our part - you have earned the right to be told about the ultimate pack:
Seriously though, your list looks fine. You're counting a few things I wouldn't reckon as baseweight, and there's one or two bits and pieces I'd do without, but nothing major. Just enjoy, and pick up tips from your own experience - more valuable in a way than anything we can tell you.
Seriously though, your list looks fine. You're counting a few things I wouldn't reckon as baseweight, and there's one or two bits and pieces I'd do without, but nothing major. Just enjoy, and pick up tips from your own experience - more valuable in a way than anything we can tell you.
Jshdudhwodj
Section Hiker
yeah, there are a couple luxuries on there like the radio, obs in summer it may drop a tad
Teepee
Thru Hiker
Jshdudhwodj
Section Hiker
Speaking of new bag
Mo60
Mo60
Slowwalker
Ultralighter
There's a story in there...
echo8876
Thru Hiker
just a raynaud's disease and a bad weather. those are incredibly cold (in their stock, not 6000, config).
Twice so when belaying. And damn laces.
Jshdudhwodj
Section Hiker
About there now
Jakey
Ultralighter
Nice!
I would ditch the footprint (or use a polycro one) to save about 300g and maybe switch out the Nalgene bottle for a couple of smartwater bottles (unless you use for a hot water bottle?)
That’s just personal preference though……..
old-skool-lite
Thru Hiker
I'd add foul/cold weather gear you may want to put on during the day, a trowel of some description unless you pack your **** out. A phone doubles as a camera/gps. You ditched the compass? Maybe a back up paper map. Possibly more water holding capacity for camp. Filter discretionary.
Jshdudhwodj
Section Hiker
I have but find it makes me too hot lol. I have one of those roll up litre bottles too, which I don't always take.
@old-skool-lite Forgot to add those
old-skool-lite
Thru Hiker
Long as you don't forget to pack them! I'm a bit anal with my list, a hangover from my past career plus it's my packing list too. My memory is pants.
If it's like January more of the clothing will be worn rather than carried. May be carrying an ice axe.
If it's like January more of the clothing will be worn rather than carried. May be carrying an ice axe.
Jshdudhwodj
Section Hiker
So I'm out tomorrow
All packed
9kg Inc food and 1l of water in the nalgene, and the poles on the pack.
The thermarest pad takes up alot of room, I'm tempted to swap out for something else.
All packed
9kg Inc food and 1l of water in the nalgene, and the poles on the pack.
The thermarest pad takes up alot of room, I'm tempted to swap out for something else.
Helen E
Ultralighter
Have a fab time! Pack your waterproofs - yellow weather warning...
Jshdudhwodj
Section Hiker
Always is when I go out be a good test for the durston.
I could save more weight, I'm taking the table, the foil tray was a bust, but I have a fold out windscreen that would do.
be a good test for the durston.I could save more weight, I'm taking the table, the foil tray was a bust, but I have a fold out windscreen that would do.
BogTrotter
Thru Hiker
Do you mean the Closed Cell Foam on the outside?
Helen E
Ultralighter
Always is when I go out
Don't forget to post the pix afterwards
Jshdudhwodj
Section Hiker
No the neo xtherm inflatable pad, very bulky. But 7r value
