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tarptent

Section Hiker
But then you have to add the weight of the burner. Whichever way you look at it, it's still a lot of money for a very small gain.
It is also a twig burner though, and twigs add no weight to your pack as you don't have to carry them. If your looking purely for a alcohol stove though then there are much lighter options.
Some home made alcohol burners can be under 10g but the stand is the tricky bit as it can add a lot of weight.
I converted my Esbit UL Titanium stove into an alcohol stove by making a shallow dish made from the modified bottom off a small Aluminium drink can and placing it onto the fuel tray. The Esbit stove, which of course already incorporates a pot stand, weighs 14g and the Alcohol tray weighed another 3-4g, so it was still extremely light. The tray held enough alcohol to boil at least 300ml of water but it was pretty slow but it worked.
 

dovidola

Thru Hiker
But then you have to add the weight of the burner. Whichever way you look at it, it's still a lot of money for a very small gain.
My burner is the 30ml Speedster at 12g, so not that much. But (and it is a real joy to join forces with @tarptent 👍), it is a question of the type of setup you want, and the main point of this style of stove is its versatility. And as it performs as a windshield when used with an alcohol burner, it replaces a conventional windshield or cone (but doesn't do the job as well as either imho).

I recall an interesting discussion here about what is a reasonable return on grams per £, which of course reached no conclusion other than it's each to their own, but £40 for a British-made UL product which saves 85g on the £25 steel version ain't too shabby in my book.

If you want a similar product from Ali, they're 3 times the weight for a third of the price (unless anyone else knows different...)
 

OwenM

Section Hiker
As I said mine cost £14, I'm happy with it. It will only be used occasionally so it will do. Don't quite see why you think I should spend £40 for something that does exactly the same as the one I already have, even if it is made of unobtainium.
 

Chiseller

Thru Hiker
My burner is the 30ml Speedster at 12g, so not that much. But (and it is a real joy to join forces with @tarptent 👍), it is a question of the type of setup you want, and the main point of this style of stove is its versatility. And as it performs as a windshield when used with an alcohol burner, it replaces a conventional windshield or cone (but doesn't do the job as well as either imho).

I recall an interesting discussion here about what is a reasonable return on grams per £, which of course reached no conclusion other than it's each to their own, but £40 for a British-made UL product which saves 85g on the £25 steel version ain't too shabby in my book.

If you want a similar product from Ali, they're 3 times the weight for a third of the price (unless anyone else knows different...)
Then there's the weight of a ground sheild for either model 😉
It looks nifty in a Bush-nudger way but the reality of it, I Belive will be a disappointment. Its a bit of an art to use a small wood burner like that in reality...
I'd imagine a potential fire risk aswell... It could be blown over in use? Maybe be able to use pegs to stabalise it.
 

SteG

Section Hiker
I've always fancied buying one but I know that's just the boy in me that wants to play with fire and contraptions . It would end up stuck in my unused box though and given to my nephew sometime in the future.
 

Whiteburn

Thru Hiker
I've used the Ti Honey stove in the small square configuration (similar to the above) & the larger hexagon config for both burning twigs & as an alcohol stove windscreen.
I was less than impressed with the performance as a windscreen as you really need the screen to extend some distance above the bottom of the pot. In twig mode the small square config is a PITA, too much effort is expended in feed the tiny fire with just the right sized twigs, the larger hex config isn't too bad but you do need to keep a close eye on the fire.
In contrast my Caldera Ti-Tri for the 900ml Evernew is a dream for both an alcohol stove or with the inferno insert a wood fire.
 

Chiseller

Thru Hiker
I've used the Ti Honey stove in the small square configuration (similar to the above) & the larger hexagon config for both burning twigs & as an alcohol stove windscreen.
I was less than impressed with the performance as a windscreen as you really need the screen to extend some distance above the bottom of the pot. In twig mode the small square config is a PITA, too much effort is expended in feed the tiny fire with just the right sized twigs, the larger hex config isn't too bad but you do need to keep a close eye on the fire.
In contrast my Caldera Ti-Tri for the 900ml Evernew is a dream for both an alcohol stove or with the inferno insert a wood fire.
Caldera Ti-tri is on my list of wants...
Stormins first inferno cone he made me was great, but it was a very wide pot (more of a pan than a pot).
The 2nd he made me was a disaster as the inverted cine insert for woodgas mode was too narrow to allow an efficient trouble free burn.
 
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