Using Zlite style mat as external backpad on frameless pack

Discussion in 'Sleep Mats' started by el manana, Jun 3, 2021.

  1. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Thinking of try this. Zlite style mat which has 14 sections:

    - Cut 4 sections off and use it as an external backpad like on GG rucksacks (so it would be 2 sections wide and 2 thick) held in position by shockcord.
    - Use the remaining 10 sections as a sleeping pad.

    Anyone use this style of backpad, is it comfortable and preferable to an internal folded pad or burrito style?

    If i still wanted to use all sections to sleep on - any suggestions on keeping the 10+4 sections connected together so they dont slide apart through the night?

  2. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    I looked into something like this, but had to discard the option as for GG large packs the back pad is larger than sections of the pads I was looking at, so check the measurements.

    I saw someone using cam snaps to connect 2 parts of the pad.

    Some people seem to use thinlite style foam pad folder over 4 ways and as part of their pad system, but also for a quick lie down during the day.
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  3. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    I use 4 sections as my backpad in my GG packs (Gorilla and Murmur).

    If you can get used to a CCF pad it might be worth trying.
    I used a 9mm flat CCF for 4 nights after I wombled one from Carnmore bothy when my Klymit airmat got a puncture. It wasn't too bad on soft ground. But I was on week 2 of a trip, and got toughened up.
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  4. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    I've used these from @paul to join sleeping pads. If he has any with plain grosgrain loops to hook the carabiners onto, even better.
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  5. markgoodlad

    markgoodlad Trail Blazer

    I too use four sections as an external back pad with my liteway elementum and then use it as sit pad. Much quicker during the day to access than if is is inside the pack.
    Yes it is comfortable. It gives a small element of structure to the pack and stops things poking into my back For me it does not reduce sweat.

    I cannot handle using a CCf pad for sleeping though
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  6. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Thanks it was to try the 4 sections on a Liteway Gramless instead of using 1m of thinlite internally to see if it was more comfortable.

    An Exped Flexmat M arrived today but wasnt sure about cutting it up....having use for the other 10 sections would justify it. Though at £20 its not much different from the Aliexpress copies.

    @Lempo 's kam snap idea sounds workable - maybe a plastic groundsheet grommet on each piece and thread a loop of shockcord through and tighten.

    I'm interested in trying ccf mats again. A couple of years ago i slept on a £6 Tesco self inflating mat at Leeds festival and probably had my best 3 nights sleep in a tent, despite the noise. Flat ground though.
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  7. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    Flat ground and beer maybe? ;)

    I also use four panels of Aliexpress mat with my KS pack. Makes a nice sit pad too.
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  8. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    2 panels of this are in all my packs. 4 is too thick, pushes the load too far away.

    I put the small section under my head end or use it to level up a hole etc. It doesn't generally move there.

    A couple of years ago, I started using Mondaplen in some packs. It's a lot more rigid than z-lite type.
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