Discussion in 'Hiking Chat' started by Lady Grey, Nov 17, 2015.
Where are shelters on PCT? Where u thinking going then?
AFAIK there are none, but I fell in love with the AT 20 years ago and its got shelters out of its rear end. Still have never managed to get there.
Pay attention Creamy - she is talking about the AT..
Work issues stymied my attempt last year.
As I said (I think I'll stop)...interested as to what evidence you have that international applicants will do better in the permit stakes?
evidence is based on simple logic. dollars and numbers.
PCTA has a 5 million a yr funded budget. Obama is President but dollar is king.
The PCTA do a fantastic job but they are accountable.
if 50 a day max being allowed the numbers wont work if increases continue. the lottery system for example on JMT / Yosemite is not being used. so they are going to do applications on merit. the website states why many were refused last year including start point San Diego. lol. a well researched experienced hiker wont make those mistakes. where ever from.
therefore a non US experienced hiker bringing valuable dollars as stated may have more points however the system works than for example johnny oklahoma who,s wife may act as support driving up highway 10. or someone without much experience who will quit early without spending precious money. less i assume likely to be a non US citizen.
costs of as per PCTA between 4k dollars and 8K dollars for a completed thru hike. smallville towns/shops adjacent need this revenue. with increased in thru hikers completing means more support for these communities as per PCTA corridor.
with the wild film release just before xmas 14 the impact if any on applications wont be felt until this year.
and finally quote. may get considered not will do better. slightly different
we shall see!
Do you have a link to that?
Creamy,In '88 when you did the JMT. were you alone or with a group from UK? Bob D,Ray S, Pete G, John H et al.
Hi. Don't know any those names. Who are they?
Was In a large group. Was at 29 palms at time and large group went up to climb hike staying at camp 4 before being kicked out the Valley and moving up to tuolumne. Too hot anyway. My mum came up and wanted to do trail and Witney. Dog of a lump and Wudnt listen. Mt Russell next door beautiful mountain IMO but oh no go to do trail and finish summit Witney. So few of us with my mum did that wiv diversions here and there. Lots support wiv big group so easy logistics. Some awesome hikes all over high Sierra. Mono recesses. Palisades.Kings river. So much. Guess now busy and permit grief with the 160 odd day apply. Guess walk ups for less popular trails still possible the old tickettron system was horrible but that long ago.Regards
Lot editing. Horrid Pred txt!!!!!
The AT is a great social trail. Yes it is crowded from MT Springer in March and April but the choice is yours to go with the herd or not. I didn't sleep in shelters much- too much snoring and folks coming in late or leaving early. I socialised for evening meals and camped away for a good nights sleep.
JMT Walk up permits are possible. For the JMT I had to camp one night with a next day 7 mile permit which sited me so I could acclimatise. I winged the whole thing including resupplying at two resorts. Wild and Strayed may have altered it. Have a look/join at the JMTyahoo group where you will get up to date info. Clearly it is along way to go without firm plans. I was told the worse that could happens is you have to camp in Yosemite for a day or so to get your permit. There are worst places to wait.
What year was this?
Walk ups only available from Lyell Trailhead at Tuolomne Meadows now.
Not hetch hetchy. Wawona . Or big oak anymore. Or Valley vis centre. Strange
With the system under review if the 40% walk up rule applies 2016 and exit permit quotas same I would be at the door queuing before opening to grab one. Shouldn't be difficult and a small price to pay.
I'd do it the other way round and come in from a different trailhead...
...well, in actuality I wouldn't as there is far better than the JMT...
Yes, am discovering that.......
In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks. John Muir
Here's a shout. Annie
Go to Whitney portal. Camp up at iceberg. Do Whitney by a better route. Not donkey trail. If u fancy a bit of sport using hands couple e face routes good. Original mountaineer route good or the classic e. Face route. I d give u a tight rope up fresh air traverse. Lol.
Do Mt Russell. Irvine and mallory as well as Muir. Then head N to do JMT in solitude and I ll go visit family,friends and hit the beach. And also bring u a burger and chips and re supply u. Lol
Whitney boring lump of talus. Why waste energy on that when there are many more beautiful and charismatic peaks to climb...?
Never climb something because it's there and it's The thing to do...choose what ticks your own box, that's what I do...
Anyway, ticket about to be booked via Bozeman, the very, very, long way round.
JMT peek at a push...twist my arm...before the hordes get there....just seen the Tetons....yummy.....
Hells Bells...burger and chips??? Transfats. God forbid..
Kale and raw sprouts for me...may have to take with me.
Have you done the GR240? It looks great - a serious contender for next year.
Will start a GR240 thread
I did the JMT in 2008. I do keep up with the JMTyahoogroup. My walk buddy who lives in San Fran has done it a dozen times and swears by a walk up permit. I did go last week August so date matters.
Yeah Whitney is a lump but I would suggest for a mountaineering route the E. Face classic is up there with Sierra greats and iceberg lake is big enough to find a spot away from hordes. Gr8 Base. Russell next door beautiful. So that's an awesome trip u plan. Amtrak is a lovely way to travel. Always meet nice people on trains. Well I do. Certainly more than planes. Haha the burger and chips is a generic for crap food when living off dehydrated or rat packs. Think it might be cold anyways. Lol. Did u get any reductions Amtrak.???
Walk up permits Def if u don't mind wait. Also always something else to do if busy. The old experienced rangers always give u suggestions. Family just over an hr from Yosemite and Kings less so its easier.
Aug eh. What max temp u think u got. I had 3 weeks "home" sept 08 and it was perfect. Regards
Thanks Creamy; will def' be chatting up, 'old experienced rangers'......
I've only ever met young experienced rangers...
Caltopo is your friend for planning.
High Sierra Topix has a lot of useful trail information.
Will also check out the younger Rangers...
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