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vaguehead

Ultralighter
Osprey losing it with the Talon Ghost: Talon Ghost | Limited edition Hiking pack | Osprey Europe

The perfect colour for the outdoors: white. Loses the stretchy back pocket from the non-limited edition Talons. Adds a laptop sleeve for 'urban crossover'. 0.9kg for 22 litres.

Includes premium marketing copy:

"An ultra-tech pack designed for extreme environments, Talon Ghost is the essence of future pack innovation. Featuring an AirScape™ backpanel, recycled Mipan® Regen Robic high tenacity Nylon
bluesign® approved, and a PFC free weather resistant coating. Ghost is the pinnacle of modern outdoor."

Only £150, be quick selling like hot cakes I'm sure.
 

DannyGeorge

Backpacker
Osprey losing it with the Talon Ghost: Talon Ghost | Limited edition Hiking pack | Osprey Europe

The perfect colour for the outdoors: white. Loses the stretchy back pocket from the non-limited edition Talons. Adds a laptop sleeve for 'urban crossover'. 0.9kg for 22 litres.

Includes premium marketing copy:

"An ultra-tech pack designed for extreme environments, Talon Ghost is the essence of future pack innovation. Featuring an AirScape™ backpanel, recycled Mipan® Regen Robic high tenacity Nylon
bluesign® approved, and a PFC free weather resistant coating. Ghost is the pinnacle of modern outdoor."

Only £150, be quick selling like hot cakes I'm sure.

What's new really besides the colour? Anything with a 'weather resistant coating' is still needing a pack liner or cover and the new material isn't even any lighter than the old Talon (0.9kg). Maybe it's stronger but even then I've never heard of any durability problems with the Talon series - they're solid, dependable little packs.
 

vaguehead

Ultralighter
It's the essence of future pack innovation which is an incredible achievement.

Compared to the new standard Talon I think the Talon Ghost got rid of the stretchy back pocket and added a laptop sleeve and put a double zip on the hip pockets. And it's white and costs £150 so a bit ****.

I have the old Talon 22. The new Talon 22 is heavier by about 90g which I think is basically the new back panel which may retain its rigidity over time unlike the one in my old Talon 22 which has gone floppy.
 

Odd Man

Thru Hiker
I've been very happy with my GG Vagabond Jet. It has a laptop sleeve for when I travel away for the weekend, so it's handy to pack normal stuff, but it's also comfy for day walks. It has stretch pockets all around and zip pocket for wallet, keys etc. Good multi-use pack.
 

simplerandomwalk

Trail Blazer
Osprey losing it with the Talon Ghost: Talon Ghost | Limited edition Hiking pack | Osprey Europe

The perfect colour for the outdoors: white. Loses the stretchy back pocket from the non-limited edition Talons. Adds a laptop sleeve for 'urban crossover'. 0.9kg for 22 litres.

Includes premium marketing copy:

"An ultra-tech pack designed for extreme environments, Talon Ghost is the essence of future pack innovation. Featuring an AirScape™ backpanel, recycled Mipan® Regen Robic high tenacity Nylon
bluesign® approved, and a PFC free weather resistant coating. Ghost is the pinnacle of modern outdoor."

Only £150, be quick selling like hot cakes I'm sure.

I feel like that's the pack for the urban hipster who wants the (marketed) performance of an arctic expedition for going from cafe' to cafe' around town feeling like they're the next Elon Musk...
 

Odd Man

Thru Hiker
Sarek Illforsen

About the Illforsen

  • 30L to 48L pack (excluding pockets which are about an extra 4-5 liters)

  • Roll-top closure with Velcro and buckles

  • Frameless - though sleeve for sleeping or sitpad that can be used as frame

  • Watertight materials and seam sealed - we can't gurantee 100% waterproof, but we get pretty close to it.

  • Hip-belt is included - but can be easily removed as this pack doesn't really need hipbelt


Materials:

Lightest combination

2,92oz Dyneema composite wozen fabric main body and x21 X-pac material for pocket. Total Weight: 280 grams

Best combination of weight, price and robustness

x21 x-pac main body material with x21 x-pac, or dyneema pocket. Total Weight: 380 grams

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https://www.sarekgear.se/backpacks
 

tarptent

Section Hiker
Sarek Illforsen

About the Illforsen

  • 30L to 48L pack (excluding pockets which are about an extra 4-5 liters)

  • Roll-top closure with Velcro and buckles

  • Frameless - though sleeve for sleeping or sitpad that can be used as frame

  • Watertight materials and seam sealed - we can't gurantee 100% waterproof, but we get pretty close to it.

  • Hip-belt is included - but can be easily removed as this pack doesn't really need hipbelt


Materials:

Lightest combination

2,92oz Dyneema composite wozen fabric main body and x21 X-pac material for pocket. Total Weight: 280 grams

Best combination of weight, price and robustness

x21 x-pac main body material with x21 x-pac, or dyneema pocket. Total Weight: 380 grams

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https://www.sarekgear.se/backpacks

The DCF version costs 2839 Swedish Kronor...That is currently £244.32 (and there may be a postage charge on top of that?)...That makes it at least £83 more expensive than the DCF Bonfus Iterus.
 

tarptent

Section Hiker
Made in Sweden vs. made in Mexico!?

Actually, it's more like the Swedish pack is designed by a Swede and made in Sweden, vs The Iterus which is designed by a Norwegian living in Italy, and it's made in Mexico to keep the labour costs down.
 

tarptent

Section Hiker
Have been waiting a week longer than expected for my Bonfus Iterus. I chose to have it delivered to a UPS drop off point near me, in case I wasn't in when it arrived. A week after I should have received it the tracking still said the same thing..."Finally delivery attempted" and then "it's on the way"...These are mutually exclusive terms though so I went to the drop off point and they said nothing had arrived, but whilst there I noticed the tracking data now said it was being stored in a secure location(!)...I guessed that location must be my local UPS depot, so I drove there and low and behold, it was there. What a relief!

Took it out for a test run in the Kent hills on Saturday...And noticed a problem straight away. The clips holding the waist belt on had sharpish triangular release catches on them, and they were digging into my sides. It was warm and I was wearing a light weight Polyester short sleeved running top so I would not have noticed the problem if I had been wearing a thicker top.
I tried to ignore the issue and hiked across from Toys Hill to Ide Hill, eventually camping on Wheatsheaf Hill, which was 724' ASL.

On Sunday morning I hiked back to my car, took off the Iterus and had a nice snack break. When I put the Iterus on again afterwards, the pain from the clips was worse than before so I decided to remove both halves of strap. It was still comfy to carry without the waist belt fitted so I wasn't too worried and hiked off up to Crockham Hill (758 feet ASL), with the intention of camping there...But it was too early and there was little to do in the meanwhile so I went back to car and drove home instead.

I informed Bonfus of the problem, suggested they might consider using a different type of clip, and then went ahead and made my own waist belt up from 15mm black webbing, some 15mm webbing plastic ladder locks and a 15mm quick release buckle...Very quick and simple to make with no stitching needed. To tie it onto the Iterus I used a couple of short loops of black shoe lace.

Including the 2 shoe lace loops the new belt weighs 16g, which is exactly half the weight of the original 25mm belt. Without the waist belt fitted the Iterus weighs just 265g, and with my ultralight homebrew 15mm belt fitted it still only weighs 281g, which I am happy with.
 
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Chiseller

Thru Hiker
Typical. Order a fancy dcf pack from LiteAF, wait many months and now fully taped ultra 200 is an option. 🙃
That's my kind of luck with inov8..
At one stage it seemed like they released and then had a think... Then changed subtle details that they should have done before releasing the prior model... They know how to cash in 😔
 

Dr Zarkov

Trail Blazer
That's my kind of luck with inov8..
At one stage it seemed like they released and then had a think... Then changed subtle details that they should have done before releasing the prior model... They know how to cash in 😔
On the plus side the Curve arrived last Friday and its a custom of course so no returning it for the more durable Ultra 200. Full customs charges sadly. First impressions are great. Well stitched, fully seamed, lovely 's' shoulder straps, light enough and very comfortable. Not sure about the add on hip belt pockets though. They are a bit slidey and the zip pulls are fiddly. Been adding some Treadlite ones today much better. Will do a little review when I've had it for a bit (not seen or heard of any UK Curve owners as yet). Lite AF lead time is around 3 months now if anybodys tempted.
 

vaguehead

Ultralighter
Typical. Order a fancy dcf pack from LiteAF, wait many months and now fully taped ultra 200 is an option. 🙃

Yeah, I'm in a similar boat. I think the manufacturers are in testing mode for this new material line and probably will be for a while. As far as I can tell the only batch production packs done so far are Pa'lante's Desert Pack and they used the 400d and 800d versions. I guess one reason they chose the heavier weight for batch production is that if there are any issues they're going to be less pronounced than in the 200d.
 

tarptent

Section Hiker
Yeah, I'm in a similar boat. I think the manufacturers are in testing mode for this new material line and probably will be for a while. As far as I can tell the only batch production packs done so far are Pa'lante's Desert Pack and they used the 400d and 800d versions. I guess one reason they chose the heavier weight for batch production is that if there are any issues they're going to be less pronounced than in the 200d.
There is always Bonfus...
 
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