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TinTin

Thru Hiker
Looks like they tried to improve on the Mariposa and did so in all the wrong ways. Crappy side pockets (all four of them) and a front zipper that leaks like a sieve which makes a pack liner mandatory which in turn makes the front zipper superfluous. Sounds like a winner...
Take the front mesh pocket off, put a big external aluminium frame on and you are transported back to the 1970s :)
 

fluffkitten

Moderator
Staff member
If anyone wants to get into the mad scramble for a Palante Desert Pack they go up for sale on Saturday at 8pm MST.
 

tarptent

Section Hiker
That's a new one on me...It's a 40 litre pack and weighs 350g, which isn't bad...Not sure what it costs though as it doesn't seem to be available anymore?
 

Ed the Ted

Ultralighter
That pack looks nice but I'm not sure how you can apply for a patent for a side pocket that holds a water bottle. Osprey, Gregory and others including some Decathlon packs have similar designs/setup and have done for many years...

Its a bit relentless how companies are constantly using vocabulary of 'game changing' new designs when the fact is that rucksacks have not significantly changed in design for decades, and probably won't for decades to come.

Sometimes I get very cynical about the whole lightweight and ultralight trend, sometimes it seems very blatantly driven by a market that has to create new niches for their new (revolutionary! Game changing!) products to fill. More plastic, more production, more consumption, more stuff.
 

vaguehead

Ultralighter
Its a bit relentless how companies are constantly using vocabulary of 'game changing' new designs when the fact is that rucksacks have not significantly changed in design for decades, and probably won't for decades to come.

Sometimes I get very cynical about the whole lightweight and ultralight trend, sometimes it seems very blatantly driven by a market that has to create new niches for their new (revolutionary! Game changing!) products to fill. More plastic, more production, more consumption, more stuff.

Yeah. I mean particuarly lightweight and ultralight gear is inherently less durable so you need to buy more frequently given X amount of use. It's all just plastic in different forms. Osprey and Patagonia are into making stuff last.

What's the solution? Back to waxed canvas tents that weigh 10kg? I can't carry that although I'm sure Fjallraven will sell me one for a grand or so.
 

vaguehead

Ultralighter
I tend to have a pessimistic outlook on it. The planet's basically ****ed, the only serious thing I can do about is abandon my relatively high standard of living and live in a cold shack which I'm not going to do out of choice. Even if I did that other people wouldn't.
 
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