Osprey Exos 2022 Design (Hip-belt pockets are back, no weight specs as of yet)

elindiokevin

Day Walker
Hi there,

I was having a quick google around to see if the new Exos had been announced and came across a recent thread on here discussing what it may be like. I decided to email Osprey and they kindly sent me images of the new pack. I have put these together with the 2018 pack so you can see the progression. The hip-belt pockets are back and they seem to have ditched the Halloween themed colours.

The email said the pack is due to be announced and up for sale in March and all the specs are to follow - I just thought I would register and share what findings I have so far. The person from Osprey also sent images of the new Atmos, I can also post these if anyone is interested.

 

elindiokevin

Day Walker
I wonder if the new design doesn't squeak with every step
This is interesting, I think they have fixed this. This last month I ordered a 2018 Exos from Amazon, it arrived and it was very squeaky. I sent this back and ordered a 2018 Exos from the Osprey website and it came with a plastic tube around the frame at the bottom where the pack comes into contact with the fabric. I also own an Atmos which I bought in 2021 and it has no squeaking issues.

I've noticed that the Opsrey packs that have ditched the vertical futuristic font on the shoulder for the simplistic Serif Osprey font seem to be the packs with the tubing on the frame and have no squeaking issues so far. Both my Exos and Atmos have the 2020/2021 font switch.

 
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pie

Ultralighter
Looks good.

Hip belt pockets, beefier hip belt, wider straps. Slightly less curved maybe. Hard to tell. Shame they didn't go with a roll top.

Maybe heavier though with all the extra stuff. Maybe they're using dyneema grid stop to offset that gain.
 

DuneElliot

Section Hiker
Still haven't fixed the water bottle/side pocket issue (too small/tall) and the compression straps that go over them. However, I do like the colors...but I certainly don't need one...Still got 2 brand new 2017 models under my bed waiting to be used.
 

WilliamC

Thru Hiker
Still haven't fixed the water bottle/side pocket issue (too small/tall) and the compression straps that go over them.
I can get 2L bottles in them without any trouble (though I take the pack off when I access them). The compression straps can be rerouted to go inside the side pockets - in fact, I think they come with one side outside and one inside when bought - though personally I cut off the bottom half and just use the half above the pockets.
 

Sue

Ultralighter
The Eja 58 appears to be on the website already with some details:
1.3 kg so not any/much lighter than the previous version. I'm still interested to see if they update the Levity/Lumina. I still have my old Exos 38 from before the weight gain and my "new" Gorilla, but it's always interesting to see the updates.
 

elindiokevin

Day Walker
The updated Atmos now seems to be appearing in certain shops. It looks smart but appears to be much the same as past iterations:


They've also released a 64 litre pack that comes in at 3.3kg(!) according to this site. I'm confused as it seems to be around £500, but Osprey seems to be proud of their new lumbar support technology:

 

pie

Ultralighter
I quite like the look of that fancy lumbar sponge thing. But are they trying to fix a problem that's already been solved. Osprey in general seem to be throwing a lot of unnecessary engineering (and marketing) into back panels. Having said that the 2021 Talon back panel is really good for ventilation, but not as good as a trampoline obviously.

But at 3.3kg for a 65l it's a non-starter for me.

I'll take the 1.3kg Exos with its good old trampoline back. Or the similar weight and size Flex Capacitor with its lovely cooling air gap.
 

JRT

Ultralighter
I'll be sticking with my lighter previous-model Exos' for a while longer then.

Controversial - but I don't miss the hip pockets and prefer the more streamlined effect the rucksack has without them.

The squeaking can be resolved by unclipping & removing the wire frame and adding a small 12" piece of tubing to the bottom of the frame (I used some clear hose from a fish tank filter cut along its length and then wound insulation tape round it to keep it on).
 

WilliamC

Thru Hiker
I'll be sticking with my lighter previous-model Exos' for a while longer then.
And I'll be sticking with my even lighter, even more previous model, though the current and previous model do seem to have more durable front and side pockets. It is a pity that Osprey appears to be moving away from more lightweight models, with both the Exos/Eja and Talon/Tempest series gaining weight and the Levity/Lumina appearing to be on the way out.
 
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Corvair

Ultralighter
And I'll be sticking with my even lighter, even more previous model, though the current and previous model do appear to have more durable front and side pockets. It is a pity that Osprey appears to be moving away from more lightweight models, with both the Exos/Eja and Talon/Tempest series gaining weight and the Levity/Lumina appearing to be on the way out.
Same here.
 

cathyjc

Thru Hiker
The whole range has been revamped, with hip belt pockets brought back and adjustable back-length added, at a cost of approximately 150g of weight added to packs that were already about that much heavier than the previous version.
I like hip belt pockets but adjustable back length is a real no no.
Usually means one size fits no one :confused: - an exercise in trying to cut production cost by making just one item rather than 2.
 

pie

Ultralighter
And I'll be sticking with my even lighter, even more previous model, though the current and previous model do seem to have more durable front and side pockets. It is a pity that Osprey appears to be moving away from more lightweight models, with both the Exos/Eja and Talon/Tempest series gaining weight and the Levity/Lumina appearing to be on the way out.
Yeah. Given the absurd UNLTD line they may also have plans for a premium ultralight line. I can't believe they'd abandon the Levity/Lumina and just have Exos/Eja.

One issue Osprey may have with lightweight and ultralight packs is their 'almighty guarantee'. These types of packs tend to be used more and are less durable. Maybe they just aren't profitable with their guarantee.
 
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DuneElliot

Section Hiker
And I'll be sticking with my even lighter, even more previous model, though the current and previous model do seem to have more durable front and side pockets. It is a pity that Osprey appears to be moving away from more lightweight models, with both the Exos/Eja and Talon/Tempest series gaining weight and the Levity/Lumina appearing to be on the way out.
I still have two of the 2017 models in my arsenal...one new, one barely used. I'm not sure what I'm saving them for really....just don't want to use them, ruin them and then not be able to replace them. I'm saving them until my ZPacks Arc Haul can no longer function!
 

Odd Man

Thru Hiker
I still have two of the 2017 models in my arsenal...one new, one barely used. I'm not sure what I'm saving them for really....just don't want to use them, ruin them and then not be able to replace them. I'm saving them until my ZPacks Arc Haul can no longer function!

How is the Arc Haul holding up? Any particular points of more than usual wear?
 

Yohan

Summit Camper
How is the Arc Haul holding up? Any particular points of more than usual wear?
Not the person you asked, but I have experience with several Arc packs that have had over 1k miles on them. The most vulnerable areas on these packs is under the hip belt pockets rubbing on belt and pockets, the connection of fabric to the lower frame bar shreds, some rubbing also behind the hip belt on the main pack body, and finally, the carbon fiber stays that run vertically are in direct contact with the sideways strut in the middle of the pack which causes the strut to rub and eat into the frame stay. Most are super easy to fix or prevent with using patches of tenacious tape on rubbing areas, and then also use folded up pieces of silnylon fabric to "lubricate" the areas where the frame stays touch the struts to prevent them getting rubbed down. The hip belt is the only part of the pack that can't really be fixed in the connection to the frame, so one would have to plan on just buying a new hip belt after many miles.
 

Odd Man

Thru Hiker
Not the person you asked, but I have experience with several Arc packs that have had over 1k miles on them. The most vulnerable areas on these packs is under the hip belt pockets rubbing on belt and pockets, the connection of fabric to the lower frame bar shreds, some rubbing also behind the hip belt on the main pack body, and finally, the carbon fiber stays that run vertically are in direct contact with the sideways strut in the middle of the pack which causes the strut to rub and eat into the frame stay. Most are super easy to fix or prevent with using patches of tenacious tape on rubbing areas, and then also use folded up pieces of silnylon fabric to "lubricate" the areas where the frame stays touch the struts to prevent them getting rubbed down. The hip belt is the only part of the pack that can't really be fixed in the connection to the frame, so one would have to plan on just buying a new hip belt after many miles.

thanks for the detailed comment. :thumbsup:
 

WilliamC

Thru Hiker
How is the Arc Haul holding up? Any particular points of more than usual wear?
I have over 2,000km on the hybrid DCF Arc Blast that I'm currently dragging through the bushes of Lycia. It's showing a little rubbing behind the hip belt but nothing serious yet.
My wife has about 5,000km on an older style Arc Blast, which has the hip belt sewn directly to the pack.
 

Odd Man

Thru Hiker
I have over 2,000km on the hybrid DCF Arc Blast that I'm currently dragging through the bushes of Lycia. It's showing a little rubbing behind the hip belt but nothing serious yet.
My wife has about 5,000km on an older style Arc Blast, which has the hip belt sewn directly to the pack.

And no issues with the arc rods prodding/rubbing into the pelvis? I read about couple of users with this issue and I guess that's why Zpacks brought in that extra lumbar pad?
 
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