Minimalism and lifestyle

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gixer

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Well done @dave you totally win :thumbsup:

I guess all of the above comes down to whether you believe a well run society should have at least a minimum of decent housing available to all its citizens as a universal 'public good' which ultimately benefits everyone, so we have a cooperative cohesive society, without unnecessary suffering.

Or that everything is market driven, where a few lucky, or highly industrious ones get rich at the expense of those less able, or fortunate.

If we look down on, and don't properly acknowledge, with some status, stability, and monetary reward those supposed 'humble' jobs such as elder care, service work, and see them as jobs to extract oneself from, at the earliest opportunity, then we are all poorer for it.

Anyone who has spent time in hospital, or any state of dependency, or need, suddenly gets to see who, and what, is truly valueable.

That person who changes your sheets, is truly angelic, and the most important person in the world. :angelic:

Trouble is we mainly have very short memories when it comes to gratitude.

Ooops sounds like politics :D

Better crack on with the humble weeding..

Or 'biomass displacement' as I have rechristened it :whistling:

Tough to know if you stating an opinion or just rambling in general
Seems to be a standard thing with your posts, you disagree, post something that has some teeth but then fade out into ambiguity
I wouldn't go so far to say it's trolling, but i do find it disingenuous

Speaking of disingenuous :D

where a few lucky, or highly industrious ones get rich at the expense of those less able, or fortunate.

How is working hard, dragging yourself to night school after working all day, being stingy with your money to the point of insanity, working jobs on the side, then buying a derelict terraced house "lucky" or "rich" ?

You're championing the cause of people you don't even represent (as a home owner)

You're also belittling the struggle that thousands in not millions or people go through on a daily basis
Low income, single parent families aren't walking around with their hands out, they're working bloody hard to improve their lot and dig out a decent quality of life for themselves

Just look around you and spend time in the real world
People on low incomes survive, many gradually improve their tough lives by being resourceful and working hard

We're extremely fortunate in the UK that we have opportunists
If people decide they don't want to take these opportunities that's their choice, but then they have to live with the consequences

You seem to be suggesting there should be no consequences for making poor choices
I don't see how that can improve someone's life long term.

Of course people fall on tough times and need help in the short term.
These tough times usually put that fire in our belly to do what we can to improve our situations though
 
Ambiguity ?

Or not being 100% sure I have the answer to every question.

Championing the cause of people I don't represent - could otherwise be seen as understanding that other people aren't as fortunate or able, as I am, but not wanting them to have a miserable time, just because of that.

Sure if people have 'fire in their belly' to acquire more wealth than is strictly necessary in order that they have more things and stuff then fine.

(So long as they pay their flippin taxes, to help run the services that we all need, at some point)

I run two businesses so cant exactly be agitating for a Marxits regime.

But I'd still rather see everyone have a minimum standard of decent housing.
in this country.

Kind of ironic you accusing me of 'not living in the real world' when I've detailed right to you my personal first hand witness of the substandard housing, and deprivation in which some people I know live, even when they are working hard.

I think this maybe comes down to your wanting to ring fence your hard won assets which you see as your pension pot.

(How about we just have a liveable pension?)

Totally understand your personal pov, but if we carry on that way the rich just keep getting richer, the 'underclass' gets poorer and more desperate.

Personally, I don't want to live in a world that operates that way.

Further weeding - sorry biomass displacement - calls..

Regards, from your friendly neighbourhood, organic troll :lurking:
 
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