How not to s*** in Snowdonia

cathyjc

Thru Hiker
No toilets open at the bottom and none at the top. Perhaps a bit of forethought on behalf of the Council could have prevented this.
And you wouldn't want to go too far from the path on some sections of Snowdon.
Time to make people "bag it out " ????
 

dovidola

Thru Hiker

Depressing reading :bawling:

Yes very depressing reading. The word "controlled" is buried towards the end:

Rebecca Williams, assistant director of National Trust Cymru, said....
"If we want to make tourism sustainable [we need] to ensure that it is....controlled....."


Regulation was always in the pipeline. Regrettably litter louts and poo plonkers are accelerating its arrival by providing an ample supply of evidence to be seized upon by the growing corpus of petty officialdom.
 

sherpa

Ultralighter
Mountain communities simply do not have the facilities to cope with the enormous visitor numbers they are now experiencing.

Bearing in mind the millions who visit our national parks each year, funding from central government is pathetic, and it always has been.

Snowdon is probably experiencing the greatest pressures, cursed by its accessibility.

Without huge investment in infrastructure, control is inevitable; the Snowdonia National Park and the local councils will see that they have no alternative.
 

dovidola

Thru Hiker
Mountain communities simply do not have the facilities to cope with the enormous visitor numbers they are now experiencing.

Bearing in mind the millions who visit our national parks each year, funding from central government is pathetic, and it always has been.

Snowdon is probably experiencing the greatest pressures, cursed by its accessibility.

Without huge investment in infrastructure, control is inevitable; the Snowdonia National Park and the local councils will see that they have no alternative.
I agree. My concern is that once the apparatus and infrastructure (and legislation) for control is established, it will be extended by default to everywhere else. Because they can.
 

Charlie83

Thru Hiker
It’s probably the most horrible place to walk in Wales. On a busy weekend a walk up Moel Siabod instead would be far nicer.
Aye, I did it two days in a row in April 2018, that was with work and if I can help it, I'd never go near it again, honestly never seen so many people on a hill, and the train wasn't running to the very top, lines were still under a lot of snow.

We came down the train line way on the 2nd day, was quite a sketchy bit even there. I read later two men had slid previously and just kept going to their death

I saw sights going up one of the other routes through the snow that defied belief, fathers chucking screaming weans in wellies up to other folk in the snow, loads of folk, in the snow in Adidas samba and the like
 

hillwalker66

Ultralighter
It’s probably the most horrible place to walk in Wales. On a busy weekend a walk up Moel Siabod instead would be far nicer.
Agree … there are loads of far nicer parts in snowdonia, very often in complete solitude. The few times I’ve visited snowdon I’ve camped on Y Lliwedd on climbed to the summit very early the next morning. The cafe is an eyesore!
 
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