Fancy watches for hiking. Is there any point? I can't really see one.

stalemate

Ultralighter
I've estimated north quite accurately with an analogue watch when I couldn't quite see the sun just judge the brightest direction. Mind you never needed it IRL use just a quick ready reckoner quite a few times.

Honestly, if I think I'll need a compass I'll take the one I have. Or use the maps on my phone and/or second device. I'm not into paper maps, there has to be something unequivocally good about our modern world and making paper maps obsolete is one thing.

Analogue watches can be more legible though but I prefer digital and am hoping for a good MIP display G-Shock model.
 
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Pipe Cleaner

Trail Blazer
Honestly, if I think I'll need a compass I'll take the one I have. Or use the maps on my phone and/or second device. I'm not into paper maps, there has to be something unequivocally good about our modern world and making paper maps obsolete is one thing.

Analogue watches can be more legible though but I prefer digital and am hoping for a good MIP display G-Shock model.
Analogue watches are going to be on my wrist more than I'll carry a compass. For example I'm unlikely to carry a compass all the time but I've needed to locate North before now when I've got no compass. It's good for times off the hills too. Or when I've pottered around an area or town having left my hiking nav tools at the campsite. Imho analogue watch is instantly readable, if you get a decent one even if it's inexpensive, but more importantly it's there on your wrist all the time just in case.

I've had discussions with people who work in fields where navigation or precisely locating themselves is important. One guy works with the latest GIS systems for his job. He said something about hiking GPS being overpriced and inaccurate. His recommendation was for something with GIS software. I can't remember the details but it's something like a rugged phone loaded with special software for mapping at the highest degrees of accuracy. With secondhand you get cheaper and better than personal outdoors gps units. Sorry I don't remember the details but at the price of inreach units or cheaper you actually get accurate nav aids.

Personally in the outdoors I prefer maps. But then I've had phone mapping that's been right out such that in bad weather following it is have been off a Crag. Not to say with real maps I'd always be better off of course.

It's not about being best but about what works for the user the best for them. If you think modern world mapping devices have made physical mapping obsolete you're a little bit deluded. PS they don't just make paper maps, there's some very excellent maps printed on plastic or waterproof paper so a lot of the oft complained about issues with "paper maps" is not always an issue.
 

Patrick

Ultralighter
I've had discussions with people who work in fields where navigation or precisely locating themselves is important. One guy works with the latest GIS systems for his job. He said something about hiking GPS being overpriced and inaccurate. His recommendation was for something with GIS software. I can't remember the details but it's something like a rugged phone loaded with special software for mapping at the highest degrees of accuracy. With secondhand you get cheaper and better than personal outdoors gps units. Sorry I don't remember the details but at the price of inreach units or cheaper you actually get accurate nav aids.
"Overpriced" - maybe, though most of us get our GPSs for "free" with our phones. But "inaccurate", I would take issue with. While he might be right that a consumer GPS doesn't have the accuracy required for specialised GIS purposes, that's not what most of us are using it for. And for the purpose of locating ourselves in the wilds, accuracy beyond about 10m is useless, because its actually beyond the resolution of the map we'll be using! (If you look closely at your 1:25,000 map, for example, the dashed line that makes up a footpath is about 1% of a grid square across (I've just measured it in pixels on my screen) - so the footpath symbol on a map would scale up to be 10m across in reality. Your navigation is only as good as the weakest link in the chain, and that's already the maps, not the GPS).
 

Jaco

Ultralighter
So I have a decade old Casio G-Shock 5600 I use for hiking. It's always accurate and will never break no matter how many rocks I bash it on.
My Timex is somewhere in a moraine in Peru, lost during a face-first Superman slide, so don't be certain that a butch watch can survive anything :)

I'd get another Forerunner 955 (or 965 nowadays) in a heartbeat. The maps are excellent, better than Gaia IME, and navigating a GPX with a watch is much more convenient than a phone or GPS device. The battery easily lasts all day and needs very few watts to recharge. The Forerunner is smaller, lighter and cheaper than the Fenix. It doesn't look flash but that's fine - it's less noticeable and has the same features.
 

Goosegog

Trail Blazer
I used a Timex ws4 for about 8 years (still works a treat) but have moved to Garmin now, I'm still on mostly paper maps but also now use Alpine quest on my android device loaded with my complete collection of MM maps (UK) … Suits me.
I find the Garmin so useful as I can now get notifications on my wrist (vibrates) as I'm losing the remainder of my hearing now. I like the health related widgets build into it.. No more chest band needed and broadcasts to my Garmin edge and phone.
 

Sporkstari

Day Walker
I’ve been debating this with some of my hiking buddies recently. I completely agree with your point about analogue watches being reliable and practical. I have a pretty simple one that’s come in handy for quick orientation when I’ve forgotten my compass—like once when I got turned around exploring a small trailhead near a campsite.
 

Jim_Parkin

Section Hiker
I’ve been debating this with some of my hiking buddies recently. I completely agree with your point about analogue watches being reliable and practical. I have a pretty simple one that’s come in handy for quick orientation when I’ve forgotten my compass—like once when I got turned around exploring a small trailhead near a campsite.

I actually like my somewhat obsolescent Garmin Instinct Solar. LCD display so legible in bright sunlight and doesn't look flash also button operated, so no touchscreen to worry about. Depending on the mode there's 30 hours to 30 days GPS without sunlight. And 12 days in my normal watch mode. Apart from the time, I really find the "answer your phone" by pressing the top right button, which saves me faffing around digging my phone out of my pocket until I have answered it.

It has an altimeter that's about as accurate as one can be, given the weather. The compass is reasonable. And the GPS does allow me to get 10-figure OS coordinates (or lat long). I wouldn't rely on the compass or gps for navigating, but it is a backup that has been accurate when I look at my walk history.
 
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echo8876

Thru Hiker
I use just a normal titanium cased Casio watch. It shows time and I may point it at the sun to find south. Not sure I need anything else from a watch, as my backup nav is inreach2. I just hate searching for a phone and turning it on in the middle of the night.
 

Sporkstari

Day Walker
I’ve been debating this with some of my hiking buddies recently. I completely agree with your point about analogue watches being reliable and practical. I have a pretty simple one that’s come in handy for quick orientation when I’ve forgotten my compass—like once when I got turned around exploring a small trailhead near a campsite.
I’ve also met folks who swear by their rugged GPS setups or fancy mapping tools, but honestly, I’d feel weird relying solely on digital devices. Weather and tech don’t always mix well. That said, there’s something to be said for a Patek Philippe on the wrist—not for hiking but for when you’re off the trails and want something timeless. Still, I’m a sucker for good maps, and I’ve had those waterproof ones save me in bad weather more than once. Everyone’s got their system, though, and I’m curious—what’s your go-to setup? GPS, maps, or trusty old watch?
 

echo8876

Thru Hiker
After getting a fancy watch (fenix 7 pro), i completely reevaluated my attitude towards this tech (especially compared to a more budget stuff).
The thing i'm impressed the most is the body battery//stress thing and sleep widget. It directly correlates to how ****ty i feel, and really helps to come at piece that it's not just mood, but i actually need to rest and not push myself (i'm kinda pro at pushing myself too much). And it works.
Rest of functions are interesting, but not as impactful for my use case. having a device to comprehensively record my walks is also nice. Backup nav also great, esp when it's cats and dogs, and i don't want to pull out my phone.
And if you have patience, it's easy to get a nice deal on ebay.
PS having a flashlight on a watch is such a genius convenience feature.
 

Jakey

Ultralighter
I’m also a complete convert. I think they are great to record activities and I get so much use out of the gps/route mapping. I don’t always want to be bothered with route finding and love that I can just hike and get a little warning if I veer off course. (note: I always carry a larger format map of some sort).

I’m also terrible at remembering to eat and drink, so I set a reminder during an activity 👍

I like monitoring my sleep and heart rate, I can generally tell if I am going to be feeling a little rough (cold symptoms etc.) if my resting heart rate increases by a few beats for no reason. That’s quite handy when managing how hard to push on a particular day.

I’ve used watches as part of my navigation and outdoor kit for years, the old ABC watches were really useful for alpine mountaineering, but the modern gps / smart watches are even better in my view.
 
A feature I love about my fenix...
I can be anywhere, not set route... activate the map, use the around me function and navigate to... the fenix will plot. a route, no connection to phone required.
or... if. I'm on a set. route... I use the navigate to an alternative way point or an areas feature/landmark...
.again the fenix will plot. a. route and give me the info for eta etc.

what really surprised me, was it's ability. to alter/change route on the fly.

This feature is good, if I know a different route to what is plotted by the watch or an on the fly change of plan.
It doesn't reroute as quick as say.. Google maps when you change course without input, but it does detect the change after a short period, and then provide an updated route, times, expected ascent etc.
 

Jim_Parkin

Section Hiker
After getting a fancy watch (fenix 7 pro), i completely reevaluated my attitude towards this tech (especially compared to a more budget stuff).
The thing i'm impressed the most is the body battery//stress thing and sleep widget. It directly correlates to how ****ty i feel, and really helps to come at piece that it's not just mood, but i actually need to rest and not push myself (i'm kinda pro at pushing myself too much). And it works.
Rest of functions are interesting, but not as impactful for my use case. having a device to comprehensively record my walks is also nice. Backup nav also great, esp when it's cats and dogs, and i don't want to pull out my phone.
And if you have patience, it's easy to get a nice deal on ebay.
PS having a flashlight on a watch is such a genius convenience feature.
Absolutely. A former colleague (from the Dolomites, and now working in Switzerland) told me, when I bought my watch (which has the body battery). that it was a revelation to him.

I have a more basic watch (Instinct Solar) which has an LCD screen like an old school digital watch, and a battery life of up to a month with reduced features.

I used to use the light in my Casio watch to find stuff in my tent.

Also, the "find my phone" if it's within Bluetooth range, is pretty good.
 

old-skool-lite

Thru Hiker
Great to hear I'm not the only one who loves my 7 pro. After seeing a US youtuber needing helivac'd after seeing ECG was iffy along with feeling crappy I installed it on mine. It's now cleared for use in the UK so shouldn't need deception of location by vpn etc to get it installed.
 

echo8876

Thru Hiker
You can get G-Shock watches that are very similar functionality to the Garmin ones.

from my research nothing comes even close to garming sensors and algorithms, with the exception of apple watch ultra, and we don't talk about a watch with 1 day battery time, really.
There are plenty of amazing and cheaper devices in outdoor smartwatch class. But you buy way more than just a device here, same as with the inreach.
 
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