Dan Durston/Massdrop X-Mid
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BogTrotter
Thru Hiker
Although I always think of this with the name Dan
And later me asking about warranty when I cut the inner out
@dandurston ”Sorry mate, someone has sent me an X-Mid Pro with all the inner cut out. I’m sure it shouldn’t be like that? Can I send this back for an exchange?”
“Honest..”
Shhh nobody mention how noisy DCF is in the wind and rain, how the pack size is bigger than poly, or how well people can see you inside the tent when the lights are on.
That last one is an real issue given how close to car parks that tent will be pitched…
And whatever you do, do not mention condensation…. Ever!
For the next installment of this journey just see what "That nice bloke on the internet" is blathering on about. When I last looked he was dribbling over someone’s x-mid pro, and talking about cheap Vango’s. As if by magic, guess who’s bought both.
The influenza effect is strong with this one.
That last one is an real issue given how close to car parks that tent will be pitched…
And whatever you do, do not mention condensation…. Ever!
For the next installment of this journey just see what "That nice bloke on the internet" is blathering on about. When I last looked he was dribbling over someone’s x-mid pro, and talking about cheap Vango’s. As if by magic, guess who’s bought both.
The influenza effect is strong with this one.
Oh **** off you dick
The Vango was cheap, so I bought it for a friend to use who's struggling ATM
The xmid 2 has been on the cards for a while, as a tarp, not that I need to explain myself to you.
What's your issue? Don't want to read what I write ignore me, it's quite easy
But your constant **** taking, dribble is getting ****ing boring
So jog on
The Vango was cheap, so I bought it for a friend to use who's struggling ATM
The xmid 2 has been on the cards for a while, as a tarp, not that I need to explain myself to you.
What's your issue? Don't want to read what I write ignore me, it's quite easy
But your constant **** taking, dribble is getting ****ing boring
So jog on
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dandurston
Section Hiker
With DCF the 'bulky' packed size is mostly the result of the 1.0oz DCF floors, which are 2-3x thickness and add to the packed size. With the version of DCF that we use for the floors it is only thick on the bottom side (where you need it) so the DCF doesn't add much bulk and the singlewall construction saves some, such that overall the Pro tents are slightly smaller than the regular tents.
Lightyear
Backpacker
Just on the tax and vat situation in the Uk. I ordered a ground sheet and solid inner 9 days ago direct from the Durston site for my XMid 1P. It came in at less than 200 Canadian Dollars or £135ish from memory. It was delivered by Royal Mail today, no VAT, tax or handling charges.
Not that I am a tight Scotsman but that’s a RESULT in my book!
Not that I am a tight Scotsman but that’s a RESULT in my book!
craige
Thru Hiker
Uncalled for. It's not the first time I've seen snarky comments from you towards Jake. What's your issue? He's trying things out, often second hand in the hope he gets as close to an ideal setup for him as possible. The fact that he doesn't get particularly far or particularly often is irrelevant and doesn't affect you at all. He's been respectful towards everyone and takes lighthearted jabs in the manner they were intended. No need to ve outright rude.
Fwiw, I've not found the xmid 2 pro any more noisy in the wind. Slightly louder in the rain and yeah you can see the stars through the tent. Packsize, the 2pro is pretty similar size wise to the 1p.
BogTrotter
Thru Hiker
How many DCF tents have you compared? There are differences you know and the experienced can choose those most suited the conditions. Which is the best and worst DCF tent you have experienced ?
Odd Man
Thru Hiker
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sectionhiker said:
I see. That's how I see a lot of folks using poles with straps. I thought it was poor technique. Now I know it proprioception.
BogTrotter
Thru Hiker
I’d prefer my poles to prevent my body from finding its position in space after my feet slip or I miscalculate a foothold on descent.
That kind of proprioception needs to be clearly avoided.
dandurston
Section Hiker
I forget what I've mentioned, but we have the design updates basically finished for the next batch including a strap option and a few other improvements that we'll show closer to the release. We expect to have the updated version in stock in a few months.
dandurston
Section Hiker
Update on X-Mid Solid Tents
Both the X-Mid 1 Solid and X-Mid 2 Solid are sold now on DurstonGear.com (no longer on Kaviso) and a few select retailers, which means they are more affordable to the UK.
The X-Mid 2 Solid sold out at Kaviso this morning, so orders have opened on our website. The new price is slightly lower due to the more efficient structure (sold direct), so instead of $329 USD with the older stakes, they are $319 USD (£251) with the new premium DAC stakes, or $304 USD (£239) without stakes. Also shipping cost is reduced from £30 -> £15, so overall the price is lower by about £25-35.
Also, with our Royal Mail shipping we are finding the 12% import tax is rarely enforced, so people often save another ~£30 for that reason. Some people end ups saving the VAT too, so it the taxes are uncertain but on average work out well. Buying a tent within the UK almost always pays these taxes.
If you do want it quicker/simpler, we also have the tents at ValleyandPeak.co.uk. They will cost a bit more there, but quicker and simpler to get.
Both the X-Mid 1 Solid and X-Mid 2 Solid are sold now on DurstonGear.com (no longer on Kaviso) and a few select retailers, which means they are more affordable to the UK.
The X-Mid 2 Solid sold out at Kaviso this morning, so orders have opened on our website. The new price is slightly lower due to the more efficient structure (sold direct), so instead of $329 USD with the older stakes, they are $319 USD (£251) with the new premium DAC stakes, or $304 USD (£239) without stakes. Also shipping cost is reduced from £30 -> £15, so overall the price is lower by about £25-35.
Also, with our Royal Mail shipping we are finding the 12% import tax is rarely enforced, so people often save another ~£30 for that reason. Some people end ups saving the VAT too, so it the taxes are uncertain but on average work out well. Buying a tent within the UK almost always pays these taxes.
If you do want it quicker/simpler, we also have the tents at ValleyandPeak.co.uk. They will cost a bit more there, but quicker and simpler to get.
Dan - it looks like Royal Mail's er... efficiency varies across the UK. I live in London and it has been at least 10 years since I have had any packages slip through without import costs etc. Unfortunately, each and every delivery now has the full charges applied :-(
I suspect its the level of expertise built up at their Heathrow hub....
I suspect its the level of expertise built up at their Heathrow hub....
Odd Man
Thru Hiker
@dandurston I sent you an email wrt some repair advice. No rush, but just wanted to check if you received my email and it hasn't ended up in a spam folder.
dandurston
Section Hiker
Re. Royal Mail - They are pretty good at charging VAT but the 12% tariff the UK has on tents is not commonly enforced via Royal Mail. It would be up to the agent to either know that or be willing to spend time looking it up, which they don't seem to have the ambition to do very often.
dandurston
Section Hiker
Odd Man: We probably got that email. I am a bit flooded here with hundreds of emails per day, but working hard to catch up and should get to it soon.
Hang on, you people are taking your Xmids outside?
Does anyone know how the new updated Xmid Solid (darker green color apparently) compares to standard UK medium/dark green tents in terms of blending in to the environment? The previous solid version had a light shiny green sheen that reflected a lot of light and stood out quite harshly in the dark heathery environments of Ireland/Scotland etc. It's hard to get a judge of it from the stock photos.
I got one a couple weeks ago, it's darker but really hard to photograph accurately
And same conditions for a pro in dcf
It's still not the same colour as many UK green tents, it's going in the right direction, it needs to be a muddier green or even a brown for UK camping, id love to see a camp dcf fly
And same conditions for a pro in dcf
It's still not the same colour as many UK green tents, it's going in the right direction, it needs to be a muddier green or even a brown for UK camping, id love to see a camp dcf fly
Thanks for the video. The panels in the shade look a fair bit darker than the versions I have seen, although it still has that bright reflective 'silpoly' sheen that Lanshans etc don't have. Probably would blend in fairly well in darker conditions, just wish it had gone with a forest green or Khaki, that would have been the dream. Wonder if it could be cold-dyed?
gixer
Thru Hiker
Sorry if this has already been asked and answered but, any plans for a Dyneema with a solid inner?