Bottom "sheet" for under a quilt?

Stuart

Section Hiker
I'm about to use a quilt for the first time but am a bit stumped as to what to put between me and my mat.

Most seem to just sleep straight on their mat, but lying on plastic or reflective foil doesn't really appeal.

I've either a Klymit Static V or a cheap Decathlon mat that has chambers running the length of the mat and radiator foil or a cheap thin CCF on top to improve the comfort and R value. In summer I tend not to sleep fully clothed.

I've thought about taking a "bottom sheet" of nylon or thin muslin but wondered if anyone has a better idea.
 

turkeyphant

Section Hiker
I don't have any advice other than out down a spare t-shirt but this is another reason why quilts with a false bottom appeal.
 

Odd Man

Thru Hiker
I'm about to use a quilt for the first time but am a bit stumped as to what to put between me and my mat.

Most seem to just sleep straight on their mat, but lying on plastic or reflective foil doesn't really appeal.

I've either a Klymit Static V or a cheap Decathlon mat that has chambers running the length of the mat and radiator foil or a cheap thin CCF on top to improve the comfort and R value. In summer I tend not to sleep fully clothed.

I've thought about taking a "bottom sheet" of nylon or thin muslin but wondered if anyone has a better idea.

TAR sheet?




EE used to do one, but appears not anymore.
 

Balagan

Thru Hiker
Don't bother and you'll be fine. If you wear just a t-shirt and it's not too warm, you'll be fine. If you wear no t-shirt and it's really warm, you'll be fine. If you wear no t-shirt, it's really warm and it gets clammy, kick your quilt off, and you'll be fine because you don't need it.
 

Stuart

Section Hiker
Cheers.

I do have a pillow, clothes won't add up to much this weekend and I imagine would be on the floor in 5 mins!

The Thermarest sheet looks good for a MYOG version. Ta.

I'll be fine!!
 

Robin

Moderator
Staff member
I sometimes use a Thermarest sheet or a MYOG fleece sleeping mat cover https://blogpackinglight.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/myog-fleece-sleeping-mat-cover/

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If you are wearing a long sleeve top and longjohns it’s less of an issue.
 

Myles21

Section Hiker
I sometimes use my Rab silk sleeping bag liner under a quilt. Put the sleeping pad inside the liner and lie on that, like a sheet, or if chilly get inside the liner. I got the standard rectangular shaped one but I guess the mummy shape might work better for certain pads.
 

Back in Pack

Ultralighter
Don't bother and you'll be fine. If you wear just a t-shirt and it's not too warm, you'll be fine. If you wear no t-shirt and it's really warm, you'll be fine. If you wear no t-shirt, it's really warm and it gets clammy, kick your quilt off, and you'll be fine because you don't need it.
I disagree. I much prefer to use a matching bedding set when I am backpacking. Yves Delorme do a beautiful floral set.

https://france.yvesdelorme.com/p/b/yd-flores-parure.html#

i find that this, paired with a contrasting valance really sets off my tarp and it feels like home :sleep: I get a much better nights sleep in the backcountry.

too much?

IMO you do not need a sheet. Just wear light clothing or on a short trip whatever you are hiking in if it is not soaking wet.
 

Odd Man

Thru Hiker
I disagree. I much prefer to use a matching bedding set when I am backpacking. Yves Delorme do a beautiful floral set.

https://france.yvesdelorme.com/p/b/yd-flores-parure.html#

i find that this, paired with a contrasting valance really sets off my tarp and it feels like home :sleep: I get a much better nights sleep in the backcountry.

too much?

IMO you do not need a sheet. Just wear light clothing or on a short trip whatever you are hiking in if it is not soaking wet.

That's camo for cowboy camping. :hilarious:
 

JOC

Day Walker
I have dicovered a really useful thing for stuffing inflatable things like air beds and seating wedges into to stop them from moving by sitting on them is a single duvet quilt cover which you can pick up cheap and cheerfully secondhand from charity shops. Just stuff the whole inflatable sleeping pad/sitting wedge into the quilt cover? If you are nimble with a sewing machine I guess you could cut out a shape to match the whole mat and hem it appropriately, but I think I'd just stuff it in and fold the excess underneath.

I looked at these quilts when I was putting together my new hiking kit - I haven't used it yet, but I've got all I need. In the finish I went with a sleeping bag, but really when you look at the quilts if you are going for the comfort factor of their design I think you can end up with just the same effect by just opening the zip on a sleeping bag and turning it around 90 degrees and tucking the corners of a sleeping mat into the corners of the sleeping bag.
 

dovidola

Thru Hiker
If your skin isn't in contact with the pad, it's more comfy as a quilt user. That Thermarest sheet looks a good option, but I doubt the nylon feels quite as nice as silk. Thus I wear silk long johns (around 100g from Land's End) plus a long-sleeved top as my sleepsuit in conjunction with Thermarest NeoAir and Cumulus quilt. The top is just my spare baselayer, and the bottoms can do additional duty as an underlayer beneath trousers during the day if the weather turns cold. Socks optional, depending on temperature.

Silk is great because, besides feeling luxurious, it adds warmth in the cold but doesn't overheat you in the warm, so perfect for sleepwear.
 

Robin

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JRT

Trail Blazer
I insert my sleeping pad into a thermalite sleeping bag liner. It's pretty lightweight and makes a nice warm sheet that stays fairly taught. Also helps protect the mat from dog claws!
 

fluffkitten

Moderator
Staff member
I insert my sleeping pad into a thermalite sleeping bag liner. It's pretty lightweight and makes a nice warm sheet that stays fairly taught. Also helps protect the mat from dog claws!

Minus the dog that's the only thing I've use my thermalite liner for. :)
 

Charlie83

Thru Hiker
I insert my sleeping pad into a thermalite sleeping bag liner. It's pretty lightweight and makes a nice warm sheet that stays fairly taught. Also helps protect the mat from dog claws!

Minus the dog that's the only thing I've use my thermalite liner for. :)

Last few months I've been looking at getting two of the +8 thermolite reactors (waiting for sales:D) for an expedition later this year, but my plan was to use them for exactly this purpose after the exped. I don't like to wear anything under my quilt and don't enjoy sticking to the pad.

Can I ask if using them in this manner generates static electricity? I'm hellish for static, certain clothes and materials cause some amount of it with me
 

fluffkitten

Moderator
Staff member
Last few months I've been looking at getting two of the +8 thermolite reactors (waiting for sales:D) for an expedition later this year, but my plan was to use them for exactly this purpose after the exped. I don't like to wear anything under my quilt and don't enjoy sticking to the pad.

Can I ask if using them in this manner generates static electricity? I'm hellish for static, certain clothes and materials cause some amount of it with me

Never had any static with mine and I'm a very twitchy sleeper.
 

Robin

Moderator
Staff member
I dug out a silk sleeping bag liner that I bought from bpl.co.uk ages ago. I thought I’d put my Nemo Tensor Alpine pad inside it to see if it would work as an undersheet. Works really well as it doesn’t have a hood. Just tuck the surplus fabric underneath. It’s actually a bit lighter than the Thermarest top sheet I have 111g vs 126g. I might start using that instead of the Thermarest sheet. It has a lovely feel. It it was hot I could sleep inside it or if it was cold I could use it as a liner inside my quilt. BPL don’t stock their own liners but I see Rab do one without a hood.
 

Robin

Moderator
Staff member
The Rab Neutrino silk liner is 96g £49.99 from UOG. I’m happy with the BPL one. Should’ve thought about it before. The Thermarest sheet is lighter than the one they do now but is a bit of a faff to attach and is marginally short for the Nemo mat.
 

Rog Tallbloke

Thru Hiker
I picked up a lightly torn MLD liner that weighs 88g. Not sure what the fabric is. Uncalendered 7D nylon maybe.
Now the MLD site is back up, I can correct this.
Made from Mountain 10D X 10D Mini Ripstop Nylon with a 3X DWR Finish
 
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