Alpkit Ultra 1

Robert P

Thru Hiker
Alpkit have come along way since the early days - not so much budget any more, though I guess major brand competitors will still be more expensive. Maybe they missed an opportunity to have a solid inner as a UK centric option?
 

Robert P

Thru Hiker
If that were polyester it would be really compelling for bikepacking/hiking.
I've not seen any polyester below 20D in tents, so maybe it isn't (currently) possible to achieve those weights unless using nylon (plenty of 15, 10 and even 7D ultralight versions available). Not sure why lighter polyester is not available - manufacturing challenges or properties of the woven material?
 

The Yank

Trail Blazer
Very good-looking tent. Nice stealthy green color with10D sil/sil nylon (no inferior PU). However, when I saw the tent's name I thought it was going to be made with Ultra fabric.

Alpkit Ultra 1 reminds me of the Exped Mira 1 HL, which is also made with a 10D nylon fly but is sil/pu and quite a bit more expensive. Mira 1 is taller though and a tad heavier. https://www.expedusa.com/products/mira-hl
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Internal height: 80cm
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Low profile great for stealth.
 
Alpkit have released their new freestanding 900g 1 man tent.

https://alpkit.com/products/ultra-ultralight-backpacking-tent?variant=41094174703721

I quite like that.
It's a no from me... 900g with plenty of parts to fail, appears to be most of a 4 season design with a 3 season at best fly design/material (it will eventually hold a fair weight in water without having the same 'run off' that a mid or steep sided fly has.
Bet your looking at North of 1.4kg when put away in a squall.
That's pretty strong money too....

I'd love to be wrong... If you buy one Mark, I hope I am wrong👍
 

Tychonius

Thru Hiker
I know it's wild, but i forgot when I've last time cooked not in a vestibule. One of the reasons I've skipped x-mid.
I thought lotsa folks said cooking in the vestibule of an X-Mid was OK. Or am I remembering a discussion on this board about the annoyance of the location of the pole relative to where you would sit and where the deep end of the porch is located…
 
I thought lotsa folks said cooking in the vestibule of an X-Mid was OK. Or am I remembering a discussion on this board about the annoyance of the location of the pole relative to where you would sit and where the deep end of the porch is located…
Not bothered us yet. Ours is a 2p, don't know if that makes a difference?
 

echo8876

Thru Hiker
I thought lotsa folks said cooking in the vestibule of an X-Mid was OK. Or am I remembering a discussion on this board about the annoyance of the location of the pole relative to where you would sit and where the deep end of the porch is located…
are you 100+ kilo and 198 in height? my tent criteria are wildly different from lotsa folks.
 

cathyjc

Thru Hiker
I thought lotsa folks said cooking in the vestibule of an X-Mid was OK. Or am I remembering a discussion on this board about the annoyance of the location of the pole relative to where you would sit and where the deep end of the porch is located…
It was me who raised the issue I have with being right handed. I find the deep sheltered part of the porch on my left awkward to access as easily as if it was on my right.
 

Lightyear

Backpacker
I really wanted this to be a good tent, internal height is a killer for me as is inner first pitch.
You would think with the market being flooded with this style of tent a British manufacturer would take cognisance of our weather and associated tent needs?

I am sue I am not the target market and hope it sells well. Just IMHO it’s an opportunity missed.
 

Robert P

Thru Hiker
It was me who raised the issue I have with being right handed. I find the deep sheltered part of the porch on my left awkward to access as easily as if it was on my right.
That is an interesting piece of ergonomics, where depending on how you use the porch to cook it suits left or right handed people:.

If you cook lying in the tent then the position of the door of the inner is the critical factor, along with depth of the porch where it can be accessed from the opening in the inner.

And if you cook sitting in the tent with your feet in the vestibule then it is the space to either side of your feet, if I understand you correctly?

I'm left handed (for most things) but find would say the X-Mid inner doors and porch favours right handed people when lying down: I have to roll over on my left side and therefore use my right hand for the stove: not my natural hand, but it is is fine for me.

I don't do it myself (it is not as convenient / comfortable for me), but if I sat with feet in the vestibule I can see the porch is deeper on the left than right side so easier for left handed people.
 

Tychonius

Thru Hiker
It was me who raised the issue I have with being right handed. I find the deep sheltered part of the porch on my left awkward to access as easily as if it was on my right.
Yes; yours is the discussion I remembered. I’m weirdly ambidextrous so that’s pretty helpful in this application.

But my mental image is confused here. I picture sitting in the inner with the pole mostly to my left. I see reaching into the deeper part of the porch, on the left, easier with the right hand/arm. The pole and inner (due to the “L” zip) blocks my left arm and shoulder, so I reach around with my right arm.

If everything were a mirror image, with the pole, solid, inner, and deeper part of the porch on your right, you would have to sit more to your left to clear your right shoulder to get around the pole and reach into the deeper vestibule on your right. Hmmm…
 

SteveMat

Trail Blazer
If you're interested in this style of tent, a better option maybe the Vango Force 10 Radon UL 1 and 2, out soon. Heavier at 1.2kg but a couple of more useful features - there's a pocket on each outer side on which you can brace the tent with your trekking poles (having seen a BA Copper Spur bending almost flat in the wind, it should help in sidewinds a bit) and it has vango's internal guyline as well (unsure how effective they actually are in practice though). It also has a partial solid inner, more headroom than the alpkit and is a nice shade of green! Also only £230 which isn't bad at all nowadays.
 

The Yank

Trail Blazer
Of course the Alpkit Ultra 1 is going to be too small for most backpackers, but I can't think of any other sub 1 kg freestanding tents on the market. It's really kind of an XL bivy/ small tent hybrid. Perhaps the 10D sil/sil nylon is good quality and the carbon poles certainly are light. The Ultra 1 could be suitable for some people to fill a certain niche. Probably designed for a worldwide market that tends to want full mesh inners.

For those who call it "crap" why exactly (besides being small)?
 
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