A genuine tent discussion thread.

Jww

Jww

F.K.A cuprajake
Hi all

I asked for the unicorn thread to be closed as it was getting messy, long and argumentative.

So I'm starting a new one, I know 😂🤔

List of rough requirements and we can work out from there.

Non trekking pole tent
1 or 2 man ok
Good in the wind
Ideally use all yr round (not deep snow)
Half decent vestibule (alcohol stove cooking)
Easy enough to pitch in strong winds

I wasn't keen on the scarp, but don't mind Thier quality,

The trekkertent phreeranger / TT rainbow has peaked my interest

But there are various incarnations of these.

I kinda liked the soulo but the reaction here put me off.

And I'll say it now I'm not fussed about condensation, every tent I've had has had it and I know it's a by product of the environment.

Thanks

And let's be positive

I want this to be the last bloody tent purchase.
 
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Lyrrad

Ultralighter
cuprajake said:
Hi all

I asked for the unicorn thread to be closed as it was getting messy, long and argumentative.

So I'm starting a new one, I know 😂🤔

List of rough requirements and we can work out from there.

Non trekking pole tent
1 or 2 man ok
Good in the wind
Ideally use all yr round (not deep snow)
Half decent vestibule (alcohol stove cooking)
Easy enough to pitch in strong winds

I wasn't keen on the scarp, but don't mind Thier quality,

The trekkertent phreeranger / TT rainbow has peaked my interest

But there are various incarnations of these.

I kinda liked the soulo but the reaction here put me off.

And I'll say it now I'm not fussed about condensation, every tent I've had has had it and I know it's a by product of the environment.

Thanks

And let's be positive

I want this to be the last bloody tent purchase.
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I'm not getting involved beyond this post.

Using your experience what has been the best tent you have owned and actually used?
 
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Jww

Jww

F.K.A cuprajake
mjh said:
Same as Lyrrad - tried to help in the past, accused of stalking. The best tent is the one you learn to use properly rather than sell after one or no use…
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I need to start adding more smiley faces to the end of sentences.
 
WildAboutWalking

WildAboutWalking

Thru Hiker
cuprajake said:
List of rough requirements and we can work out from there.

Non trekking pole tent
1 or 2 man ok
Good in the wind
Ideally use all yr round (not deep snow)
Half decent vestibule (alcohol stove cooking)
Easy enough to pitch in strong winds
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My Lightwave T10 Trek fulfils all of the above for me, with the possible exception of it being noisy in the wind - I have used it in some pretty disgusting conditions, and have spent about 50 nights in it so far, mostly on the hill. I have had to re-proof the 210d PU groundsheet, but this was a simple process with Fabsil Gold.

Additionally, I find that it has enough room inside for me to be able to change without performing contortions, and for me to be able to pack my rucksack inside if it is raining. Note that although this tent is (was) advertised as inner first pitching, in practice it can be pitched all in one with minimal exposure of the inner to the rain. Also, a tunnel tent is very 'safe' to erect in adverse conditions, I secure it at the windward foot end and methodically work my way forwards, no chance of it escaping and ending up over a cliff or in a tarn!

A 'return' T10 Trek is currently on offer from Lightwave for £200 in their Crux Outlet site https://crux-outlet.online/product/t10-trek-0?shop=1

Their current model, the T10 Trail, can be pitched inner first, outer first or all in one.

PS - I know that tunnel tents are not to everyone's taste, but it is a tent that I trust, whatever the weather.
 
Jww

Jww

F.K.A cuprajake
Jakey said:

😂😂
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Un nah nah

I liked the idea of the unna, but not the bowing of the windward end, potentially having to buy £170 worth of 10mm poles put me off, I know there not a necessity, but from the research I've done.

There's also the niak, but same idea.
 
old-skool-lite

old-skool-lite

Thru Hiker
Phreeranger's a good choice. I'd go non DCF.

Tunnel tents are good but seem hard to find at a good weight. I like the look of the TN Starlites but would prefer the door to open from top rather than the side.

I'm pretty out of touch!
 
Dave V

Dave V

Moderator
Staff member
Other than an Akto some 10-12 years ago I have no real experience of owning a conventional tent for any length of time and using it in various conditions.

Out of the Hillebergs I’ve used, Akto, Enan and Soulo, the Enan was the most comfortable for me. Easy to pitch, easy enough to strengthen/beef up for heavy wind and weather and least like a coffin.

From what you have described above does the X-Dome not tick most box’s for you?
 
WildAboutWalking

WildAboutWalking

Thru Hiker
cuprajake said:
Un nah nah

I liked the idea of the unna, but not the bowing of the windward end, potentially having to buy £170 worth of 10mm poles put me off, I know there not a necessity, but from the research I've done.

There's also the niak, but same idea.
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Bowing of the windward end of a 2 pole crossover tent can be largely eliminated by the addition of a second guyline, at an angle to the first. This certainly worked with our wobbly £80 fibreglass poled dome tent from Millets, withstood the 69mph gusts of Storm Lilian in August when many more expensive tents were trashed.

Having said that, I would personally give the Unna a miss because it has no porch. And I cannot afford Hilleberg prices. 😁
 
Jakey

Jakey

Ultralighter
cuprajake said:
Un nah nah

I liked the idea of the unna, but not the bowing of the windward end, potentially having to buy £170 worth of 10mm poles put me off, I know there not a necessity, but from the research I've done.

There's also the niak, but same idea.
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That’s why I posted the video, I’m pretty sure that’s the 9mm poles and no pegs……just really well guyed out. Very little deformation in high winds on the top of a mountain.

It’s all about adapting to the weather conditions, in my view. If the weather reports are good you can lighten the load and take less guys and pegs. The same applies to pretty much any tent really.

I had my Wechsel out recently in really gusty winds. The tent has pathetically thin poles, but I guyed it out properly and it performed really well.

There are loads of good shouts already on this thread. I have a Phreeranger and that is a very good tent. My brother has the Lightwave T10 and loves it. 👍👍👍
 
Jww

Jww

F.K.A cuprajake
old-skool-lite said:
Phreeranger's a good choice. I'd go non DCF.

Tunnel tents are good but seem hard to find at a good weight. I like the look of the TN Starlites but would prefer the door to open from top rather than the side.

I'm pretty out of touch!
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That door put me off and the fact there 85cm

The abisko lite 2 tunnel is a mix of 40d skirt with 20d body. Listed as 1.8kg but in reality is 2.1 which is nallo territory.
 
Nigelp

Nigelp

Thru Hiker
I had the original Pheeranger EB for many years. Great tent. Used it in all weathers and it stood up well. Suited me at 165cm but could be cramped for taller folk maybe due to the way you lay with the curve.
 
Jww

Jww

F.K.A cuprajake
Dave V said:
Other than an Akto some 10-12 years ago I have no real experience of owning a conventional tent for any length of time and using it in various conditions.

Out of the Hillebergs I’ve used, Akto, Enan and Soulo, the Enan was the most comfortable for me. Easy to pitch, easy enough to strengthen/beef up for heavy wind and weather and least like a coffin.

From what you have described above does the X-Dome not tick most box’s for you?
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You'd think it would, but the carbon poles, and really light materials put me off,

I had the kuiu mountain star , which in theory was a cracking tent, but came with pulls on the inner mesh brand new.
 
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BogTrotter

Thru Hiker
cuprajake said:
That door put me off and the fact there 85cm

The abisko lite 2 tunnel is a mix of 40d skirt with 20d body. Listed as 1.8kg but in reality is 2.1 which is nallo territory.
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If mine was 85cm it wouldn’t get used as I’m 6’2”. I’d have to be built like an owl to use it!

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Alfie

Alfie

Ultralighter
My tent history.

Canvas Vango force 10 back in the late 70s into the 80s.
TN Wild Country Quasar ( great tent served me well for over 20 years)
Wild Country Aspect 2 great little tent lot lighter than the Quasar. (Still have it)
Part Exed the Quasar for TN Voyager. (Still have it great tent but now prefer side sleeping.
Drop xmid 1p v1 bought new when they first came out. (Was my 3 season tent for the Scottish Hills, Quasar for the winter.
Have used the xmid fly only for winter snow camps, stood up to some strong winds.

Durston Xmid 2p for more room in winter,fly only or with solid inner if wife and or dogs come too.

Trying out the Scarp1 as a side sleeper may suit me better than the Voyager.
Also has smaller foot print than the xmid 2.
 
Jww

Jww

F.K.A cuprajake
I turned an xmid pro into a tarp as I love the idea of the xmid, but practically I always had an inner touching, they offer so much space

I used it once in what I'd say was 15mph winds seemed ok, TBF

It's only 0.5dcf

Do we think that it would actually take more wind🤔🤔🤔



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Note I said no trekking pole tents as I have struggled with mids,
 
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