Wind charging

tom

Thru Hiker
Brilliant ideas and making them work too - impressed! A cook pot for wood lands, wind above the tree line and water in the valleys...
No weights mentioned but I guess the wind charger might work for a small group? But I can`t see this quite working for a solo hike for a while yet?
 

Bopdude

Thru Hiker
I have the Mini0 thermoelectric generator


Just used it in Sweden for usb light in the tent, works ok for that but for charging devices it's touch and go, haven't got that figured yet.
 

Shoarthing

Summit Camper
. . . . No weights mentioned but I guess the wind charger might work for a small group? But I can`t see this quite working for a solo hike for a while yet?
My PowerPot XL (they only made a few) is a touch under 0.8kg, roughly the same as the estream. A PowerPot X (still 10w output) is under 0.6kg, so more practical. The wind charger is aiming for 1kg-ish.

The big difference between these widgets & solar in blighty conditions is they're much more likely to actually produce power.

I often take out a titanium MSP Core4 stove (wood-burning) as the sole stove: with this and the PowerPot XL you can keep things charged without much stress. It is if course far, far heavier than you'd want - but not much more than Trangia-heavy . . . . & most of us if old enough put up with those reasonably cheerfully . . .
 
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Shoarthing

Summit Camper
@Bopdude - Hi - fascinating design, and at 350g-ish bearable weight. I haven't yet found an really adequate 5W output Thermoelectric generator; even the PowerPotV is marginal (but it does work).
 

Bopdude

Thru Hiker
@Bopdude - Hi - fascinating design, and at 350g-ish bearable weight. I haven't yet found an really adequate 5W output Thermoelectric generator; even the PowerPotV is marginal (but it does work).

Hi, this was a surprise gift to take away so not much time to play with it, it seemed to charge a powerpack better than a device but that was temperamental on a few parameters, it would and did however chug along fine on full boil on the Ti-Goat stove running a usb light, I'll try a post a pic......................brb

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gixer

Thru Hiker
Is it just me relapsing back into old fart mode, or are these things a solution to a problem that doesn't exist for the vast vast majority or outdoors enthusiasts?

Seems like you're more likely to run out of food quicker than you'll run out of electricity these days.

Lets say you do 4 days before visiting a town to restock.
A small 18650 charger weighs around 35g, 1 x 3400mAh 18650 battery at just under 50g
Lets say you're a really heavy electronics user and you need 3400mAh a day

4 x 50g for batteries = 200g
1 x 18650 charger = 35g

That's under 250g for a reliable 4 days (at least) worth of electronics use.
It doesn't matter if it's windy but not tooooo windy, or if it's sunny or not.

Throw in another 100g and you've got a mains charger and you can go indefinitely.

Easier still, i've got a 15,000mAh sealed battery pack, weighs 385g and i've had 1 weeks use out of that.

For those few people that are doing long unsupported hikes in wilderness areas and are catching or hunting their own food i can see why it'd be worth faffing with gadgets like these, for the rest of us there's already good, cheap, lightweight, reliable, working solutions.
 
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ADz

Thru Hiker
For the amount of power these things can generate vs size/weight of them I would much rather just take batteries or a charged USB power bank with me. To me these chargers are a bit pointless and any small amount of trickle charge they generate is negated by the size/weight and time it takes to generate. Not knocking anybody for using them, just my personal opinion/view on the current devices/abilities.
 

Enzo

Thru Hiker
I read Chris Townsends write up on his lowest to highest trek in the states, he used a solar charger and seemed happy with it. But of course we're talking death Valley not Scotland!
On a tangent, I liked Carrot Quinns write up on the l2h route too
 

Bopdude

Thru Hiker
Horses for courses I suppose, as I said, it was an unexpected gift but one that proved useful. We had about 6 or so hours of daylight a day so it came in handy if only for the tent light.
 

gixer

Thru Hiker
I think it's absolutely fantastic that people are rethinking old ideas and doing their modern spin on it with modern materials.
Thank goodness there are folks out there doing this sort of thing :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Folks like Chris Townsend really have no option, their livelihood depends on them being able to take pictures and send stories to editors.

For the rest of us surely keeping electronic use restricted while we're out hiking, is one of the man advantages of getting out there?

In 2 weeks i'll not be on-call anymore, it'll be the first time in 17 years.
Gotta say i'm really really reallllyyyyyyy looking forward to going out without my phone :wacky:
 

Enzo

Thru Hiker
I'm limited to short trips at the moment so two spare Samsung phone batteries <100g @6 quid each does my phone, gps, camera and a petzl e-lite will easily last me a trip on one battery
 

gixer

Thru Hiker
It's all fun, especially in the Hot Tent...my cuppa tea, that hot tent....mmmmmmm
Toasty wood fire....:biggrin:
FUN, Gixer... One must stop being an old fart occasionally...:laugh::laugh::hilarious:
Keep rolling

Sad thing is, i'm not even 50 yet :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Went out playing squash with a mate Friday, he said EXACTLY the same thing (fun thing), i won't condone driving like an idiot on public roads, but lets say the traction control was off for the drive back :whistling:

Need a lift to the Lake district meet? :whistling::whistling::whistling::whistling::p:p:p:p:wacky::wacky::wacky::wacky::confused::confused::confused::confused::depressed::depressed::depressed::depressed::depressed::nailbiting::nailbiting::nailbiting::nailbiting::kiss::kiss::laugh:
 
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