Weighed my hiking boots today....

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by Foxster, Apr 20, 2020.

  1. FOX160

    FOX160 Thru Hiker

    I keep trying to buy a pair of trail shoes, but wet feet keeps putting me off.
    what do you guys do about wet feet ?
  2. Foxster

    Foxster Ultralighter

    Not something I have personal experience of but my understanding is that the choices are:
    1. Have wet feet or
    2. Wear some waterproof socks
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  3. Erik Haaland

    Erik Haaland Trail Blazer

    I have used Salomon X-Ultra Mid GTX for quite the amount of years, cannot fault them. Same goes for La Sportiva Ultra Raptor GTX and Mammut Mercury III mid GTX which are also very good and hold out water for very long time here in the soggy south-west coast of Norway. I have often been surprised after a 5-6 hour hike in shoulder seasons and damp terrain that my socks are still dry and the only wetness has come from sweat, not rain or water.
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  4. FOX160

    FOX160 Thru Hiker

    Is their a particular type or manufacturer of waterproof socks everyone goes for?
  5. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Anything above 10c a pair of thin synthetic socks and your feet will be dry within 1 hour
    Decent trail runners have good drainage so most the water squilshes out, warmth from your feet do the rest

    If it's colder than 5c then i might put on some sealskinz waterproof socks

    My feet are so much better since i stopped buying waterproof shoes, better still after i stopped wearing walking boots

    With waterproof shoes my feet sweat like a pregnant water buffalo in a sauna
    I'm usually at the point where my feet are actually dried in non-waterproof boots/shoes

    Wide toe box helps as well, helps prevent toes rubbing together as much

    Only problem i've had is if the ground is peaty (not steve but the soil type)
    Found some of the soil gets into the shoe and in between my toes
    If i KNOW it's going to be wet before i set off i put some glide in between my toes and on the balls of my feet, stops the rubbing
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  6. Rmr

    Rmr Section Hiker

    Walking in spring/summer /early autumn I find walking in non membrane shoes to be really cooling and pleasant, especially in early morning dew. I was a convert to non membrane about 6 years ago. Usually cheaper but harder to find in stores in my experience
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  7. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Totally agree with @Rmr
    At least in the summer I think the cooler you can keep your feet, and ideally dryer, the better.
    Gortex keeps the water from coming in but guarantees they'll be sweaty and hot, worst case scenario for blisters.

    Winter bog hopping I'll leave to those with more experience of that environment.
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  8. Foxster

    Foxster Ultralighter

    Got some boots to try on today from Amazon Wardrobe...

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    On the left we have Adidas Terrex Ax3 Mid GTXs and on the right Merrell Moab 2 Mid GTXs.

    Adidas
    Weigh 980g the pair.
    All man-made construction.
    Not very tall. Means the ankle doesn't feel very supported and there's not much cushioning around the opening.
    Lugged soles but not very high lugs - about 6mm. Continental brand sole.
    Very wide tongue area. Feels like top of foot is supported by the tongue and laces rather than the body of the shoe.
    Feel narrow, or the foot is well-held, depending on how you look at it - yet the back feels loose. Restricted toe-box.
    Has a 3cm-high thick rubber-like toe bumper that should protect the toes and improve durability.
    Don't feel particularly cushioned in the bounce-up-and-down-in-them test.
    Seem fairly rugged but not quite like workhorse hiking boots.

    Moab
    Weigh 1052g the pair
    All man-made construction with some suede-like reinforcing areas on the sides.
    About 1cm taller at the back than the Adidas. Has cushioning around the opening.
    Patterned rather than lugged soles - about 6mm deep grooves. Vibram brand sole.
    Typical width tongue area.
    Comfortable fit out of the box. Roomy toe-box. Cushioned heel top.
    Has a 3cm-high thin rubber-like toe bumper that won't do much to protect the toes or improve durability.
    Reasonably cushioned in the bounce-up-and-down-in-them test.
    Body seems softer and more comfortable but then perhaps not as durable as the Adidas boots.

    Thoughts
    As typical, I like stuff from both boots.
    The Adidas seem tougher but a little less comfortable as a result.
    I'm concerned about the foot support of the Adidas. They could do with being a little taller and having a narrower tongue area. Tie lugs for the top of the laces would be better too, rather than having lace holes all the way up.
    The twist-on-wooden-floor test showed the Adidas being grippier, with the Moabs being quite slidey.
    There's not much in the weight - 72g the pair.
    First thought was that the Moab was better because they are more comfortable but after 5 minutes of wearing one of each I have decided the Adidas are more ruggedly built and more likely to handle bogs and rain over time.
    On balance, I'd go with the Adidas - but not convinced enough to keep. So I'm sending both back and will keep looking.
  9. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    If you are mainly walking outside of cold wet weather conditions, runners go well and as others said will dry as you wear them. Walked all day for two days in constant rain -these wet. Four to five degrees. Non GTX. No blisters and comfy warm. No prunulation (technical term:whistling:) of feet. 20200430_204402.jpg These just died. About 800 ks on them. NZ- up to Mueller hut.
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2020
  10. Foxster

    Foxster Ultralighter

    Just ordered some Salomon X Ultra 3 Mid GTX to try.
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  11. Erik Haaland

    Erik Haaland Trail Blazer

    on my third pair, have yet to disappoint :)
  12. Foxster

    Foxster Ultralighter

    Good to know, Erik.

    What happened to the first 2 pairs? Not very durable?
  13. Erik Haaland

    Erik Haaland Trail Blazer

    They are very durable, but after three years hiking in soggy conditions the GTx does start to lose some of its functionality, despite cleaning properly after each trip. So this is year seven and got my third pair after year six.
  14. Heltrekker

    Heltrekker Ultralighter

    Salomon and Salewa have got several pretty robust models at around 1150g the pair. I've also been tempted by Scarpa Mojitos at about 1kg the pair, but wasn't happy with the fit in the shop so passed on them. I've got Salomon X-Alp Ultra's and Salewa Mountain trainers. Salewa come up narrow, and I've had issues with sole durability on rocky terrain, but great where the ground isn't abrasive. They are a leather boot, so get heavy when wet. The Salomon's are nice and comfy so far, but haven't had a chance to really test them yet due to lockdown - have done one circuit up La Rhune in autumn, held up pretty well in mixed terrain, kept the water out fording a stream and didn't feel like lead afterwards.
  15. Foxster

    Foxster Ultralighter

    So, my keepers are...

    Salomon X Ultra 3 Mid GTX

    Very comfortable out of the box. Ruggedly built but still a lot lighter than my trad hiking boots.

    I got size 10.5 and I take a size 10 shoe, so definitely a good idea to go up a bit.

    Gonna try trail running in them tomorrow ;)

    More info...

    Weigh 1016g the pair. Not the absolutely lightest such footwear out there but the extra ruggedness and durability are worth it.
    All man-made construction as far as I can see, though a label mentions some leather that I can't spot.
    Height is about right to provide some ankle support and there's reasonable cushioning around the top.
    Lugged soles - about 6mm high lugs. Decent spacing so stones getting lodged and collecting mud shouldn't be too bad.
    A roomy toe-box.
    Has a 4cm-high thick rubber-like toe bumper that should protect the toes and improve durability.
    Good grip in the slidey-wooden-floor test.

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