Ultralight hammock!

Discussion in 'Hammock Kit' started by Ed the Ted, Jan 22, 2021.

  1. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Trail Blazer

    Hello friends,

    Just stumbled upon this and thought I'd share... A full size (325cm) lightweight hammock with sewn in bug net, weighing just shy of 400 grams!!! That's about half the weight of my more or less (obviously not in materials!) identical hammock.

    This plus a lightweight 3x3 or smaller tarp, making a viably super duper light hammock set up. Approx or just over 1kg for tarp and hammock and bits n bobs, add UQ and pad +quilt or bag of your choice and you're away.

    https://www.cocoon.at/products/index.php/p/hammock_en

    https://www.addnature.co.uk/cocoon-...ock-single-size-olive-greenblack-1137218.html
  2. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    That looks pretty good, especially at that price.
    You'd struggle with good coverage with a 3x3 tarp though at that length, assuming it's a standard ridgeline length. If you get one, let us know what like.
  3. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Looks okay, apart from rubbing of the net on the line?
  4. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Trail Blazer

    Yeah I guess so, though with a 3x3 put diagonally it should be fine, and to be honest I would be using it for long walks in fair weather where it would be almost guaranteed not to rain. And the summer rain here in Croatia tends to go straight downwards, too.

    My easyhammock must be just over 3 metres and with the ridgeline set how I like it it does droop a lot so is considerably shorter, and I've always covered it with a 3x3 tarp (though I do also have the hilleberg tarp that is 3x3.5m, but it is double the weight!)
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  5. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Trail Blazer

    Seems to be a precedent in the hammock world (for hammocks with sewn-on nets anyway) and I've never heard of it causing problems. Presumably the net is made with enough excess material that lying in it doesnt pull it so tight. I've never heard of the net wearing through from friction on the line. When I first bought and used a hammock with a sewn on mosquito net I very much had this in mind though.
  6. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    Which EasyHammock, is it one with built in insulation?
  7. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Trail Blazer

    It's not ,its the 'survival' model that has the insulation area sewn in but with no insulation and a zip so you can put your mat in there or whatever else. If you put a sleeping bag in it soon just scrunches down to the lowest point, below your bum.

    I originally ordered the insulated one then decided I should get one without as it would be too hot for use in the high summer. In the end I wish I had bought the basic one that is just a single layer hammock with a net but hey ho. It does make a useful pocket to chuck stuff into but obviously that won't work when using an underquilt.
  8. Meadows

    Meadows Section Hiker

    I kind of like the idea of the insulated ones as there are some advantages to the all in one system but they never quite tipped the scales re the negatives.
  9. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Trail Blazer

    Yeah I agree, for a non weight-discerning (ok they're not -that- heavy) UK based person I think they are a great idea, you will always need about that amount of insulation and there are many advantages to synthetic in a humid or precipitating environment. I bought mine in the UK but knew I would mostly be using it in southern europe so i changed the order to no insulation. The sleeve that mine has is imo a halfway house that serves no purpose - not tight enough to hold a pad well against you so in colder weather will have cold spots aplenty, and without at least little loops in the corners to somehow fasten a down blanket (this isn't actually such a bad idea) inside the sleeve, anything you put in just slides down. Matt is a lovely guy though and the quality is great, no complaints there. I've even wondered about un-stitching the bottom layer but I wonder if all the sewing holes will become weaknesses in the material.
  10. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    You could cut out the sleeve but leave narrow strips where the stitching is?

    Unless I misunderstood the construction.
  11. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Trail Blazer

    You're right I could do, though it would inevitably look tatty or weird and I'm not sure my ocd streak could handle it
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  12. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    You mean like many of the PCT hikertrash do? :D
  13. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Trail Blazer

    Ahahaa, well it doesn't bother me what others do, and the extra 2m squared of ripstop and a zip isn't making or breaking anybody's day, I suppose I can just leave it on!
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  14. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I've only had one with a sewn net... Iirc it had the line outside.
    Doesn't take much contact for netting to create a midge gate :(
  15. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    No... I was wrong... It was internal....
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  16. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Trail Blazer

    Did it ever rip? or come close?
  17. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Didn't have it long enough. I only used it a couple of times and sold it on as I didn't like the design.
    There wasn't enough netting.
    When it was zipped up, the netting reduced the volume of the hammock and it wasn't as comfortable.
    With the netting Unzipped and stuffed away, it was great.
    It was an expensive hammock from one of the US companies (I can't remember the name but @paul may have the same brand. I'm sure I followed his lead at the time.)
  18. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Trail Blazer

    I think mine can feel like that too, feels small with the netting on. But the comfort and the open-ness to the surroundings, I love.
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  19. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    My Blackbird warbonnet has the ridgeline on the inside of the bug netting
    Must be around 250 nights in that, plus around 300 Siestas :whistling:

    Zero problems with the bug netting rubbing on the ridgeline

    I'd buy another WBBB tomorrow if this one was nicked
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  20. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I've not used my WBBB since I got a Chameleon from Dutch a few years ago, I miss the shelf but Dutch offers a few accessories to get that storage space back.

    As much as I love the BB it can be finicky about setup and more often than not I'd get a ridge under the calves as the footbox dropped away, there's definitely a sweet spot with them.
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  21. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Use my BB at the caravan so i have all the lines setup ready, just clip it in and i'm off
    As it's cooler in the hammock than in the carvan i'm most nights in the hammock
    Great night's sleep as well, which is odd as i'm a side sleeper

    Mossy net is by far the most useful function, mossy's are a nightmare there

    Not ordered from Dutch since he started sueing other companies
    Sooner take my money elsewhere
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  22. Ed the Ted

    Ed the Ted Trail Blazer

    Well... I bought it. Here are some pics for anyone who is considering it. Well made, simple design, nice materials. The zip only goes down one side of the mesh so you can't fully unzip and stow the mesh. Doesn't come with trees straps of any kind, just the hammock and two carabiners. It has 8 loops total, 2 at each foot and head end, both sides, sewn on to the outsides, presumably for aiding underquilt hanging. I thought maybe they could be staked out but the thread there is nowhere near reinforced enough for that imo. The bag is sewn on, not a fav feature of mine but I might well chop it off and hem. Overall its really really light, packs down very small, clearly well made and will do the job great, nice and big for a proper lay. Can't wait to test it over night!

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