Ultralight budget Aegismax down sleeping bag review & comparison to the Quechua Forclaz Ultralight

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  1. Walking Nature World

    Walking Nature World Summit Camper

    You can watch the full review here:

    This is a review and comparison of the two sleeping bags we own. One of the sleeping bags is Quechua Forclaz Ultralight that we used previously and the other sleeping bag is our new Aegismax Ultralight down bag. Both of them were tested out in the wilderness during the long period of time and now we are finally ready to share our experience. We are going to discuss and compare their weight and size, compactness, warmth, comfort, durability, cleaning and price-quality ratio.

    We are always in the search for more good quality budget friendly options so if you know any other sleeping bags to mention please leave it in the comments.
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  2. Dave V

    Dave V Moderator Staff Member

    I've had one of the Aegismax bags and for me the ratings would be suitable but for most I think they would find similar to yourselves. I also found the bag a little tight so tended to use it open.

    Bag ratings need to be taken with a pinch of salt imo as everyone is different.

    Nice vid and comparison
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  3. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I've cooled (sic) on Aegismax as I believe they use live plucking; happy to be proven wrong..
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  4. dovidola

    dovidola Thru Hiker

  5. Walking Nature World

    Walking Nature World Summit Camper

    Thank you for commenting. Of course every review is quite subjective and we try our best to tell the facts and the truth that we experienced. But again it can all be very different depending on the person and use. They are a bit tight, that's why we recommended to buy the biggest size available as the change in weight is insignificant.
  6. Walking Nature World

    Walking Nature World Summit Camper

    This is terrible, didn't know such information, have to learn more about it.
  7. Dave V

    Dave V Moderator Staff Member

    I thought they changed that last year or at least said they did but I cannot find the statement now. I may be wrong but I was sure I read it somewhere that they had joined an ethical sourcing scheme.
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  8. fluffkitten

    fluffkitten Moderator Staff Member

    Seen suggestions of that, even if they don't their down quality is very variable. Both my Aegismax bags are still on the go but are way colder than their ratings for me. :(

    Not buying from them again, when I need anew bag I'll head to Valley and Peak for a quilt.
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  9. Foxster

    Foxster Section Hiker

    Nice review.

    I have an Aegismax bag too and I agree that anything they quote for ratings is exaggerated and bears no resemblance to real world comfort. I nearly got into trouble with mine because it's supposed to be a 4 season bag with a -8C rating but I used it when it was just a couple below freezing and I was very cold even with lots of clothes on. It's also quite slippery and hard to keep on a mat.

    It's been discussed here often before but the comfort/lower/limit ratings provided with all bags are, at best, a vague idea of the warmth of a bag and fairly useless for comparing one bag with another. A better bet is to multiply fill weight by fill power and compare those numbers between bags. Of course, that relies on the makers being honest about those numbers and many simply lie about them too.
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  10. Fubuki

    Fubuki Summit Camper

    I really like the Aegismax bags I've owned (mini, M2, nano 1, nano 2) but was concerned about the source of their down. I did some research and found they are using the 'responsible down standard' logo on their website [​IMG]http://www.aegismax.com.cn/project/ultra-dry-down/
    Last edited: May 11, 2020
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  11. Fubuki

    Fubuki Summit Camper

    The Aegismax website uses the 'Responsible Down Stardard' logo - I've emailed aegismax and RDS to check if this is legit...

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  12. turkeyphant

    turkeyphant Summit Camper

    Any response?
  13. kvragu

    kvragu Summit Camper

    I once tracked the 'source' of the live-plucking concern on r/UL, it was one correspondence where someone asked if they did live plucking and aegismax just replied yes. At risk of offending, I find that that correspondence in the aliexpress universe is not reliable and not English-strong, so I wouldn't put much weight on that. But it's definitely a question mark.

    I own the windhard quilt and find the comfort rating to be optimistic. That said, the worst nights I had in it were only chilly and waking up a few times. Definitely not close to dangerous. I also think drafts were a factor as I'm at the edge of a comfortable height and used a torso pad. These are nights in the 5-10C range I'm talking about (it's rated at 7-2C comfort). Down distribution/migration can mess up its performance as well.

    I saw many reviews with people taking it close to freezing, though.
  14. Fubuki

    Fubuki Summit Camper

    No reply from RDS yet. I suapect aegismax could have sourced some down from one of the many RDS accredited suppliers in Nanjing where the aegismax headquarters based.

    I'm not sure Aliexpress sellers would know a lot about the production process of the bags and gave the answer they thought the person wanted to hear - e.g. 'don't worry we don't kill the geese, they live long and happy lives swimming around a pond once we've collected the down from them!'

    As for cost RDS approved down needn't be expensive. I recently bought an RDS approved down jacket from Aldi for less than £20. Most RDS approved down is a by product of the Chinese food (duck and geese) industry so the prices are a lot cheaper than it used to be in the past.
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