UL Fishing Kit

Discussion in 'Everything Else' started by The Bimbler, Mar 1, 2015.

  1. The Bimbler

    The Bimbler Backpacker

    Having lived on the Dorset coast for a few years I've spent a fair amount of time beach and kayak fishing but keep thinking about ultralight kit that packs down and weighs bugger all so I can try and catch some protein on multi day walks.

    Just wondered if anyone here has any recommendations on what kit to look out for?
  2. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Seen a fair few Tenkara rods out in California mountains..... I wonder if they'd suit Dorset though.....or even the UK?

    Disclaimer: I know nothing about fishing.
  3. The Bimbler

    The Bimbler Backpacker

    I like idea of Tenkara but it looks like it'd take a long time to master and 90% of the fishing I do is in the sea where I can't imagine any advantage... but I also know very little on the subject :)
  4. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    The Des Taylor Pocket Pen set used to get some good reviews, not sure if they're still around though
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  5. ADz

    ADz Thru Hiker

    I think I bought a cheapo clone of this off eBay, not used it yet though.

  6. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    I do a fair bit of fishing, i have a few telescopic rods as they're handy, but as they use full sized reels non are really lightweight enough that i'd want to cart them around while hiking.

    Mind you if i knew i could guarantee a couple a fish in say 1 hour of fishing it might be worth it, as it is i'm lucky if i catch a fish all day.

    Even then it's tough to catch something that's big enough to eat and is tasty.
    With freshwater fish it's even tougher.
    I'd bet £50 i could catch a pike within 3 hours on most decent stretches of fresh water, but i'd use live or frozen bait, using a spinner or lure in comparison is a bit hit or miss.
    Plus even if you catch one they taste like crap.

    In lower areas i'd also be concerned about eating any freshwater fish as the quality of the water they live in isn't likely to be healthy.

    Salmon and trout can be easy to catch in places at certain times of the year, but usually these fish are tied up tight with fishing permissions.
    So you'd either have to plan exactly where you are going to fish beforehand and pay, or you'll have to break the law and poach.
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  7. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Some of those Tenkara rods are bonkers - a 12' rod at 76.5g.

    The guys I saw using them had a lot of success - but they were fishing in rarely visited lakes. It looked good to me as it seemed easy...then I thought..cleaning fish (disposing of guts), cooking fish (no fires allowed at elevation), fishy smells on your gear (bears...and fishy smells)...

    So Mountain House looks more attractive,....
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  8. The Bimbler

    The Bimbler Backpacker

    Trout/salmon is the only river fish I'd want to eat and realistically 90% of my fishing time is on the coast anyway.

    I'm happy to spend an hour or tow fishing after a walk when camp is set up, for me it's good R&R and I'm certainly not going to waste away missing a meal or two :)
  9. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

  10. The Bimbler

    The Bimbler Backpacker

    Hmmm how much does a stick of that weigh :D
  11. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    It's a consumable so doesn't figure in the base weight:rolleyes:
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  12. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    A little telescopic 8ft spinning rod and small reel work for me with a little Mepps style spinner.

    Lightest reel I can find is in the pound shop at 32g. Its not great as you'd imagine but will cast a Mepps 40 yds and takes 3-4lb line OK.

    I keep meaning to trawl the shops to find out what the lightest 1000 series reel weighs. A half decent reel with half decent telescopic rod is an effective tool.
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  13. The Bimbler

    The Bimbler Backpacker

    I've already got a well used Shakespeare telescopic rod and reel which I found at a car boot sale for under £5

    It stows down to 17" which is good but probably not very durable.

    The reel is 370g and the rod 136g so it's the former that could be most improved on.

    Maybe Tenkara is the way to go...76.5g for a 12' rod certainly sounds very tempting
  14. nic a char

    nic a char Trail Blazer

    A 4' tele rod is handy for packing & casting underhand (streams) and carbon fixed-spool reels are also cheap and light = cover a lot of water quickly.
    The hobo kits are neat, but small diameter = small coils = harder to manage.
    That's why Ray Mears' plastic bottle (bigger diameter) is a better hobo idea - easier to control, light, and free...
  15. nic a char

    nic a char Trail Blazer

    "they use full sized reels" - you can get tiny light carbon fly reels and you only need <30' of fly line - the rest can be nylon monofilament
  16. The Bimbler

    The Bimbler Backpacker

  17. Social Climber

    Social Climber Trail Blazer

    I am a mad fly fisherman and guided professionally for a few years before i ran out of money and had to get a real job again.
    Tenkara is pretty limiting TBH, fine if your fishing wee streams without any wind but pretty useless on the average UK loch or proper river in normal weather, of course Tenkara anglers would argue but to me its just a fad in the UK.
    Two choices as i see it, take your regular kit or buy one of these starter kids spinning packs from any angling store. I bought my lad one and sneak it out the house the occasional weekend if heading fro the hills. TBH i just bite the bullet and take one of my regular fly rods/reels if i have a "proper" plan.
    What surprised me is hill walking and fishing dont really go hand in hand for me, if i spend a day in the hills i am knackered and want to eat/go to bed and simply cannot te ar5ed getting kitted up and wetting a line.
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  18. nic a char

    nic a char Trail Blazer

    Hi Bimbler, yes fly-fishing takes a bit of time to master. The reel you showed on ebay is a fixed-spool reel (not a fly reel as such) - you can learn to cast it in snag/tree-free areas is 5 mins. It's also very flexible - you can spin like Mears & Teepee with a wee spoon eg Mepps or DIY teaspoon bowl, or attach a weight & fish a local worm on the bottom, or suspended under a float, you can even fly-fish using a float (eg an old Bic pen with the fluid tube removed - the weight of the water is enough to cast).
    As you'll see I'm a keen and lifelong fisher, but for you guys it's the chance of fun & supper, tacked on to trekking lite.
    So, a tiny fixed-spool reel, a tiny carbon TRAVEL ROD <£20 on ebay - the carbon ones in short sections are generally MUCH lighter than telescopics - and a plastic wallet with flies, hooks, nylon etc should give you a good chance, especially in high tarns/lakes/lochs/becks/burns.
    DON'T go the tenkara route - you all rightly say it's too specialised & inflexible - designed for streams/becks/burns.
    Tight lines!
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  19. Social Climber

    Social Climber Trail Blazer

    I am not clear where you intend to fish but in Scotland where I do most of my fishing there is a perception by landowners that when they see someone fly fishing it's just someone having a wee fish, whereas if you're spinning or bait fishing your poaching.
    Be mindful there are very few public free waters even in the middle of nowhere and your often required to buy a permit or at least let the game keeper know what your up to. Of course you could just wing it:confused:
  20. stokrenden

    stokrenden Summit Camper

  21. nic a char

    nic a char Trail Blazer

    google free trout fishing in scotland - quite a few available - google loch names where you plan to go/check Bruce Sandison's book - often keepers are helpful - but AVOID salmon/sea-trout waters and Scottish Government Protection Areas unless you buy a legal permit - AUTOMATIC prosecution by police - not owners...
  22. Social Climber

    Social Climber Trail Blazer

    Aye but they are often battered by the Bucky boys, not that they are bad but I just can't handel the empty barbecue boxes and beer tins. You will know better than me though, I seek out running water 'cause I am a wee bit gay.
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  23. nic a char

    nic a char Trail Blazer

    Yes indeed! I think I've visited the most remote and high of the hill lochs, and have yet to find one free of broken whisky bottles, beeer tins etc - very sad. On the other hand, got some useful found gear, including a very nice Nilfisk knife.
    Less at the burns - too much effort walking compared to sitting beside the set lines:rolleyes:
  24. The Bimbler

    The Bimbler Backpacker

    Thanks for all the advice which has given me lots to think about.

    Tenkara is off the list, and a multi section rod is sounding more appealing than telescopic. Fixed spool sounds like the way to go for now as I have a little experience with them already. No specific places in mind yet but definitely coastal and suitable rivers as and when they occur.
  25. Gadget

    Gadget Thru Hiker

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