Tick Removal

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  1. Gadget

    Gadget Section Hiker

  2. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    Its a member only link Gadget :(

    What's the story? I always thought burning or freezing encouraged them to regurgitate their stomach contents into the blood stream
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  3. Dave Vaughan

    Dave Vaughan Trail Blazer

    I thought that too, I think there was something about it on the Matt Dawson story in the paper saying not to burn, freeze or suffocate them
  4. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Reading them the Daily Telegraph should do the trick....
  5. Gadget

    Gadget Section Hiker

    Research reveals best way to remove a tick
    Julie Cross, Exclusive, Manly Daily
    November 2, 2017 1:00pm

    IN a world first, a northern beaches hospital has conducted research into the safest way to remove a tick.

    Dr Andy Ratchford, emergency director at Mona Vale Hospital who was involved in the study, said results showed killing the tick by freezing it while it was still embedded in the skin was the best course of action and could potentially save a life.

    He said the research proves it was safer than using other methods such as pulling it out while still alive with tweezers or your fingertips.

    Dr Andy Ratchford with one of the ticks they have removed from patients at Mona Vale Hospital emergency department. Picture: Adam Yip.
    “In general, we found that four out of five people who removed the ticks without killing them first suffered an allergic reaction, mostly it was a local reaction, but in some cases it was life-threatening,” Dr Ratchford said.

    He said in comparison, only one out of ten patients who killed ticks in place by freezing them first, suffered a reaction.

    “Anaphylaxis is potentially fatal. If you can remove the tick and decrease your chances of getting a reaction then that is important,” Dr Ratchford said.

    Dr Ratchford said the advice was critical for those living on the northern beaches which was a known tick hotspot.

    Dr Andy Ratchford at Mona Vale Hospital Picture: Adam Yip.
    He said at Mona Vale Hospital they were seeing a year-on-year rise in tick related emergencies.

    As well as dealing with minor reactions to tick bites, they were also seeing patients with cellulitis, tick typhus and those with life-threatening anaphylaxis caused by an allergy to a tick or to meat, brought on by a tick bite.

    An Australian paralysis tick. Picture: Geoff Thompson, Queensland Museum
    Allergy expert professor Sheryl van Nunen, who first linked ticks to meat allergies, estimates that more than 1000 people on the northern beaches have developed a meat allergy caused by a tick bite, while others have developed an allergy to ticks themselves.

    Last December an Avalon dad told the Manly Daily how he was left fearing for his life when his throat started to close up and his eyes and tongue turned black, after his wife pulled out a tick in his neck with her fingertips.

    Mona Vale doctors had to give 53-year-old wool trader Michael Kiernan three emergency shots of adrenaline to help him breathe in the terrifying ordeal. Despite being bitten many times by ticks, he had never had a reaction before. Now he has to carry an lifesaving Epipen in case he gets another tick.

    Michael Kiernan was left fearing for his life after a tick bite turned his eyes and tongue black.
    Dr Ratchford said they saw most of their tick patients between July and December, as that was when the adult female needs its last blood meal before producing offspring.

    He said during this period around two per cent of all cases at Mona Vale’s emergency department were tick-related, which was high.

    The study looked at 124 patients between July and December in 2016. He said that didn’t include everyone who came to emergency with a tick bite, but a large sample of patients with tick issues.

    Dr Ratchford said those on the frontline of tick emergencies had been advising people to freeze not squeeze ticks for some time.

    A tick embedded in the head of a boy from Sydney's northern beaches.
    One of the ticks removed from patients at Mona Vale Hospital. Picture: Adam Yip
    However, without research to back it up health authorities have been reluctant to promote the method.

    “There’s so much conflicting evidence out there on how to remove ticks, it’s a minefield,” he said.

    “This is the first research looking at the best way to remove ticks.”

    He said he would be submitting his research to journals in the hope of getting the information out there.

    Dr Andy Ratchford holding a tick removed from a patient at Mona Vale Hospital. Picture: Adam Yip.
    1. For adult ticks, use a freezing agent, containing ether, such as WART-Off. Apply five presses of the treatment half a centimetre above the tick and wait for the tick to fall off. If it doesn’t, reapply. Seek medical help if a tick, dead or alive, doesn’t drop off.

    2. For tiny ticks, such as larvae and nymphs, use a permethrin-based cream such as Lyeclear. Leave on for one to three hours and they should fall off.

    3. For more information on how to prevent and remove ticks go to tiara.org.au.
  6. Ken T.

    Ken T. Ultralighter

  7. Enzo

    Enzo Section Hiker

    I've heard US based podcast talk about ticks inducing meat allergys :eek:, didn't think it was applicable in the UK, never even heard of anything but lymes in this country. On the plus side they seem to avoid me, must be the smell....
  8. tom

    tom Ultralighter

    I always thought oil was the way to do it? Something about oil blocking airways which supposidly causes ticks to drop off?
  9. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I think I'll stick with the Otom or Tick Key

    I'm not a fan of using tweezers as they can sometimes break the body off if the head is buried
  10. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    I've found the O'Tom tick twister tool to be 100% effective, easy to use & weigh nowt :)
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  11. Gadget

    Gadget Section Hiker

    Tis the O'tom I use too, on the dog and moggies, never on me yet (touch wood).
    Always worked well, apart from one which was thoroughly buried, only had its ar5e sticking out.
  12. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    O Tom for me too. The small one has got 200+ ticks off me and a dozen or so off others .
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  13. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    You must taste good Mole
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  14. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

  15. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    On 2014 tgo I did 60 in 48 hours :D

    After walking along loch Beoraid
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  16. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I've always got off pretty lightly but I have used permethrin for a lot of years, I've camped in some serious tick country on west coast canoe trips but the most I ever had was two at the same time, one tiny one on the eye lid :confused:

    When we did the Shiel/Moidart round a mate wandered off for a call of nature away from the beach we'd stopped at, he came back ten minutes later covered in them, I thin he pulled 17 out of his legs and found several more later in camp, higher up, anatomically :giggle:
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  17. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I think they don't like me (join the club)....I can recall three* in the last 30 years...

    * we still keep in touch
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  18. Chiseller

    Chiseller Ultralighter

    Had over half dozen come off me last time I was in glencoe... Quite scary seeing them appear in the shower, reckon half of them came from. My beard! Guess I asked for it going off piste an wading through head high bracken.... Luckily not one bite...
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  19. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    They love me.

    Sat down last year, put my hand down, noticed 20+ nymphs crawling over my arm after just a minute or so. . maybe I'd hit a nest (?) No one else in our group had any.
  20. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    Just the one for me, from Balmoral a couple of years ago. I'd wager I made more of a drama over that one tick than Mole did with 200. :spitoutdummy:

    I came back from Thirlmere last year and noticed hundreds of them still crawling over my trews in the car. Not even a nibble. Countless times others have been 'had' and I'm clear.

    Ticks really don't like me.
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  21. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    I've had that too @Mole . Then I realised we were sitting in a nice warm sheltered grassy sunny spot ….. just where the deer lie up :confused::nailbiting::(.
    I choose my stop spots more judiciously now and it's paid off in fewer tick invasions.
    I look for places the deer don't/won't 'lie up' eg. knobbly rocks/prickly heather etc. etc.
  22. OwenM

    OwenM Trail Blazer

    Only ever knowingly had one on me, that was on a trip to the west coast of Jura but I had been walking around barefoot for several hours.
  23. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    I got a LOT doing the great glen way a few years ago, snce then I've always been permithrined up and only had 4 on me since.
  24. Diddi

    Diddi Section Hiker

    15 years getting out and touch wood ! None :)
    Wife and kids not so lucky ...

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