Summer mat suggestions

Discussion in 'Sleep Mats' started by Stuart f, May 24, 2020.

  1. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Hi all.

    In anticipation Of a summer end to lockdown, it has dawned on me that I need a suitable replacement for my alpkit Numo.

    I currently use a thermarest neoair xtherm for chilly months .
    Looking for something obviously much lighter and full length Preferably

    any recommendations please?

    stu
  2. Patrick

    Patrick Trail Blazer

    Hard to beat a thermarest x-lite, I'd have said, particularly if you're already a thermarest user. Though if you're on a budget I've found the cheap Klymit lookalike that I bought for my daughter from Ali better than I expected if you're happy with no insulation (she uses it with radiator foil underneath). Neat inflation sac / drysac with it for an extra couple of pounds, too. Time will tell how durable it is...
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  3. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Cutting edge is I'd say uberlite, but you pay with reliability I'd say. Xlite I think is the sweet spot with TAR.
    Tempted to try some of the Ali/naturehike pads, especially the 2p 1200mm wide one for £40.
  4. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    So the xlite is the way to go.
    May as well keep an eye on eBay whilst lockdown is on, might get lucky I guess.
  5. JRT

    JRT Trekker

    I have a Sea to Summit Etherlight Air for summer use. It's a large and weighs a little over 400g, but it is by far and away the most comfortable hiking pad I've ever used. They do an insulated version too but it's a tad heavier. Not that it's getting much use at the moment :(
  6. Heltrekker

    Heltrekker Ultralighter

  7. DuneElliot

    DuneElliot Section Hiker

    Heard and seen really good things about the Nemo Tensor. If I didn't already have the Etherlight Insulated it would be the pad I would go for. Thermarest make good pads, but I hate the mummy shape.
    I do like my Klymit Static V Insulted, but not quite as cushy and comfy as the Etherlight
  8. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Thanks for the replies
    The tensor looks a quality mat. It is rated for 7 to 2 degrees so not sure if it qualifies as a true summer mat but I’ll try to find some reviews.
    Having s started my weekend trips last Autumn, I find I’m seriously lacking in summer kit. Also need to upgrade (or downgrade as the case may be) my cumulus 450 quilt..... a little overkill for all but winter
  9. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    What don’t you like about the Numo Stuart? I’ve nearly bought one a few times.
  10. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Having only experienced nights down to -2 so far with my thermarest xterm I was concerned it may be too warm?
    To be honest, I’m not sure what temps to expect on summits during the hottest months.
  11. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    I used my XTherm with a light quilt in summer (15 overnight) with no issues. Unless it's 20 plus overnight I reckon you'd be laughing.
  12. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    My experience is that a mat that isn't warm enough is a problem.
    But a mat that is a bit 'over rated' for the conditions isn't too much of a problem as you'd vent your quilt/bag instead.
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  13. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    So basically there’s no point getting a summer mat other than to save 100g?
  14. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    Possibly.
    It's a case of try it and see :)
  15. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I'd stick with the Numo for the warmer months
  16. Bob-W

    Bob-W Trail Blazer

    I just use my Exped Winterlite all year round, 425g. My wife has the Hyperlite @ 365g (both Synmats and both mummy shaped). In hot weather the material can feel a little "clammy" next to the skin but either wearing jim-jams or putting the mat in a sleeve of some kind solves that problem. (Actually I've not come across any mat of any type that doesn't feel clammy in hot weather, it's really a function of your skin rather than the mat)

    If you think about your mattress at home, you don't swap it out during summer because it's too warm do you? The same principle applies to sleeping mats, they aren't really providing "heat" they are just slowing heat loss to the ground. I'd find one that you like the look/weight/price of and go with that.
  17. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    I agree with you in regard to backpacking mats, but here in Turkey, bedding mattresses have a summer side and a winter side and we flip them as the season changes. But then night time lows here are currently 23 degrees C and we're still a month away from the height of summer so perhaps not applicable to the UK mountains.
  18. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    basically there’s no point getting a summer mat other than to save 100g :eek::eek::eek:......
    Other than!!!
    :D
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  19. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    Some of us started out out with a summer mat and then had to get a warmer mat for colder seaons ……..
  20. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    My brother in law just got a mat. He's been hiking all over the world. Not big on research for kit though. Takes tins of soup for trail food.
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  21. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Just realised I misread your earlier reply and actually referred to the tensor in my response. Sorry about that. My Numo is fine, albeit a little noisier than some mats . Probably worth a try . Used it on sites when out on my Spa Wayfarer and it’s been okay from spring to autumn
  22. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Maybe I should focus more on diverting mat funds to a much more suitable quilt.
    My cumulus 450 is an oven over 5 degrees c.
    What do people use for summer? A 250?
    Or a synthetic ?
  23. Bob-W

    Bob-W Trail Blazer

    I'm a warm sleeper so the 150 is fine for me for basically while the trees are in full leaf - allows for a bit of lag between air and ground temps but I can get caught out on occasion. Go for the 250 if you are a cold sleeper or want a bit longer overlap between that and your 450.
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  24. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    Sorry if I sound like a pedantic ars€, but are you two talking about Nemo Tensor?
  25. Stuart f

    Stuart f Summit Camper

    Shewie was referring to the numo and I misread and replied thinking he had referred to the tensor. I think it was the nemo numo similarity that threw me
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