Socratic Trail?

Discussion in 'Places & Planning' started by Lempo, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. Lempo

    Lempo Ultralighter

    Looking at walks around Brighton and came across this one. 79km trail from Croydon to Brighton, sounds very exotic... ;) I'm interested in this, as it would be an easy access, just taking the train to Croydon and walk back.

    There's very little information about it out there. Looks like there's two variants:

    https://www.ldwa.org.uk/ldp/members/show_path.php?path_name=Socratic Trail
    https://www.ldwa.org.uk/ldp/members/show_path.php?path_name=Socratic Trail - Eastern Variant

    Looks like there's not many options to wild camp, so I guess it would mean B&B/hotel/hostel/airbnb accommodation which pushes up the price quite a bit.

    AllTrails has it broken up in 6 sections, which would make it very manageable around 10-12km a day. Obviously more can be done in a day.

    https://www.alltrails.com/lists/socratic-trail

    I'd like to get out there and test my kit. Even though I don't need the 60l of my Crown2, I think it would be good to put in some miles with it to test it out. I could even pack my new X-mid & sleep system just to carry a full pack. Only thing really not needing to carry is food more than 1 day and no stove as hot food would be available throughout the day.

    Would making this walk in winter here in the south be completely crazy or miserable?
  2. Baldy

    Baldy Thru Hiker

    Croydon is not far from me and i’m bored :yawn:. So looks worth investigating:thumbsup:
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  3. Lempo

    Lempo Ultralighter

    :D

    I've been plotting some routes. Looks like first night could be at Redhill/Reigate, some cheap hotels there. Second night at Copthorne, lots of airport hotels. 3rd night around Lindfield/Haywards Heath and then Brighton.
  4. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    You guys must really be desperate :(:(:(
    It's tough living right next door to the 'gorms though......I do feel pressured to get out every week. ;)
  5. Baldy

    Baldy Thru Hiker

    You rotter :D
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  6. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    too right! It’s over £100 to take the train somewhere with a weather forecast for relentless heavy rain.
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  7. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    Someone posted this site with an excellent looking route in the lakes. But it also has this route from Southampton to Canterbury, called the Old Way. It claims that it sticks to lesser trod greenways, which is a tall claim for the south east. I had a look, the beginning is Southampton and Havant suburbs, well, not much to be done about that if you’re starting at a train station. Might be worth checking out the rest of it, for us sad southerners. Not actually sad, mind you, just sad from a walking in fine landscape point of view.

    https://britishpilgrimage.org/portfolio/old-way-to-canterbury/
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  8. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    Sorry, re the Socratic trail, I would say that if you have a warm enough sleeping bag you could try to camp on that route. Now that it’s dark so early, dog walkers, who are the main hazard to privacy in the south east,will be out the woods, fields etc before dark. I’ve camped on the village green at alfriston by choosing my moment to pitch and being semi concealed by a wall, although far from ideal obviously. However take food as if in the wilds. If you are looking for somewhere private enough to pitch you will, by definition, not be near a pub or restaurant. You won’t want to pitch, leave your tent to walk a mile or two back to the pub and then back again. Plus, you have no idea where the pitching opportunity will be. So you need to be self sufficient.

    the fact that there is a pub within 5 miles because you’re in the built up south east, doesn’t mean you’ll be pitching anywhere near it. Probably the opposite. Also don’t assume villages have grocers for resupply. They usually don’t. All closed down. Seems mad that you can’t readily buy food while walking in the busy SE, but that is the truth.

    I had a sad evening with nothing to eat but a Mars bar because I assumed I’d be able to buy food. Don’t be me.
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  9. Lempo

    Lempo Ultralighter

    Talk about a rude awakening. :joyful:

    I plotted a route via Redhill/Reigate, where there's couple of cheap inns and then there's Copthorn, where there's a cheap airport hotel by the trail. Last section is on the Downs, so there's no suitable inns etc. That might have to be wild camping, but then again it's also the best location for that on the trail, I reckon other option is to have a one long day, since I'll be bailing out by Stamner Park as I live close by, so that saves me from walking to centre of Brighton

    I'm planning on taking full kit excl cooking set. That means tent, pad, -6c quilt and a couple days worth of dry food and resupply or eat a one meal on the way. Not really a breakfast person, so that helps as well. Also the amount of fat I'm carrying, I won't be dying of hunger anytime soon. :D

    Lots of valuable insight, thanks.
  10. Lempo

    Lempo Ultralighter

    This looks interesting as well. We just visited Canterbury cathedral couple of months ago. Could start in the middle, walk to Southampton, take the train to Winchester and walk SDW back...
  11. Baldy

    Baldy Thru Hiker

    After a thorough investigation :bookworm:..
    I’d go east from Brighton..
    Taking in the Cuckmere valley, Battle, Hastings, Rye, Romney Marsh Dover and end up in Deal.

    This route offers opportunities for wild camping or camp sites. Plenty of history and is a lot more interesting than Croydon :)
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  12. Lempo

    Lempo Ultralighter

    I got the UK Trailwalkers book today and it listed quite a few long trails here in SE

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  13. Daymoth

    Daymoth Ultralighter

    Ive done most of that as day trips from station to station and ive enjoyed it a lot.
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