Sleeping mat - S2S Ultralite, Klymit V Ultralite, or other...?

Discussion in 'Sleep Mats' started by Patrick, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. Patrick

    Patrick Trail Blazer

    Passing my (standard rectangular green) Neoair Venture onto my son provides me with an opportunity for a (modest) upgrade if I fancy. I've found the neoair very comfortable, and warm enough if used with some reflective radiator foam underneath, and would be quite happy with a direct replacement. However, I wouldn't want to pass up the opportunity for something better!

    My main criterion for better would be lighter - I'm quite happy with the comfort of the neoair venture (though I wouldn't want it's replacement to be less comfortable), and although it has a very modest r value of 1.3 I only realistically camp in temperatures down to zero and have grown to quite like having the length of radiator foam as a sitmat.

    I was tempted by a neoair xlite, but I can't really justify going over £100, and, as I've said, I think the extra insulation is probably more than I need. So these two mats have caught my eye - the Sea to Summit Ultralite uninsulated, and the Klymit V Ultralite. They both seem to come in, from some sellers at least, at around £80 - £85, and both are a substantial improvement in weight compared to the neoair venture. What do folk think, particularly about comfort? And warmth - they do have even less insulation than my neoair - perhaps I'm being naive expecting to compensate for that with a bit of radiator foam. And does anyone have any other suggestions?
  2. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I'd recommend the Neoair Women's version if you are not tall; high R value and comfy for me as a side sleeper.

    Poss bit £££

    I have a Multimat Superlite Air I'll sell, but it is not insulated, ergo not warm...but it is light; I no longer use it.

    The Neoair and an XTherm do it for me these days...and I've tried them all :D
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  3. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    @Clare was selling some nice mats recently in the classifieds, not sure if they sold
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  4. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    Sold the s2S ultralight, decided to keep the big Agnes. The neo air still available.
  5. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I hear good things about the Nemo Tensor regular wide, not the lightest at 468g but apparently very comfy
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  6. Patrick

    Patrick Trail Blazer

    Ah, thanks Shewie and Clare. I hadn't realised Clare's neoair was the Xlite's predecessor, I'd thought it was simply a neoair venture. Looks ideal at only 379g - I'll take it please, Clare.
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  7. oreocereus

    oreocereus Section Hiker

    How do you find the size of the Neoair women's? I've been using one for quite a while, but have oft struggled to be comfortable due to narrowness. And I'm a very narrow male (5'10ish, usually hovering just below 60kg)
  8. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I'm heavier, super-wide shoulders, side sleeper; find it fine.
    We all sleep differently I guess.
  9. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    For me side sleeping, I recon 60 wide by 150 long would be ideal. Tempted to buy a cheap 60 wide Ali mat and have a go cutting it down to try it out.
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  10. FOX160

    FOX160 Thru Hiker

    Ive been thinking the same for summer use, but stomach sleeper.
  11. Taz38

    Taz38 Thru Hiker

    This looks okay



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    I used my alpkit small inflatable last time. Couldn't get comfy with the length this time. Guess taking less gear means less stuff to use as a pillow support and foot-end. I did like the quick inflate/deflate, not faffing with a pump (I know- me bad).
    Going the other extrem, I'll use the exped downmat tonight.

    As was mentioned earlier, a little shorter and wider would be good, and for me at least 5cms thick. Self-inflatable is nice imo, but doesn't come thick enough. Works with a zlite underneath but then it gets quite heavy overall.
    Choices choices...
  12. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    More my price level if I'm getting scissors out!

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