Sleep matt for adventure racing

Discussion in 'Sleep Mats' started by Quixoticgeek, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. Quixoticgeek

    Quixoticgeek Ultralighter

    I've rather foolishly signed up for an cycling adventure race in may. I'm after a sleep matt that combines durability (I don't want to be messing with a punctures), with small pack size. The race is in May, so I'm not expecting things to be particularly cold. I'm thinking something like a self inflating matt might be the trick, as these at least have some insulation properties even if punctured. Ideally I want something that packs down smaller than a Nalgene bottle.

    What would people recommend?

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  2. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

  3. Stube

    Stube Backpacker

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  4. Diddi

    Diddi Section Hiker

  5. Quixoticgeek

    Quixoticgeek Ultralighter

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  6. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I've got an earlier version of this - its compact and quite light - circa 360g iirc.

    I don't want $99 for it; if interested message me.
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  7. JimH

    JimH Ultralighter

    I've had mine down to around freezing plenty of times, it's not a toasty thick down-filled mat, but it's not terrible. TBH, at those sort of temps it's my stupid-light quilt that isn't keeping me warm enough.

    Happy to lend you one of mine if you're back this way before May, it packs down to around Nalgene diameter (90-100mm) and approx 250-260mm tall (if folded in half width ways).
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  8. benp1

    benp1 Backpacker

    The bikepacking races tend to be one of three things
    1 - no mat, not much sleeping, you don't want to sleep for too long anyway. plus it's lighter
    2 - short mat, just for some warmth
    3 - lightest possible mat you can get away with - e.g. klymit or piece of foam
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  9. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

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  10. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Have you used it yourself Pete? Looks ideal for a Mallorca 'proper' pad protector on rough rocky/spiky ground?
  11. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    All the time, it's my normal sleeping insulation/mat protector/sit mat in the tent. It does a reasonable job of protecting from abrasion, doesn't stop thorns though. If you sleep on heather for example, it'll poke through.

    It's essentially TV packaging foam with a space blanket stuck to it; same as the windshield protectors. Best treated as disposable for rough use, needs a bit of duck tape carrying to cover the new holes.
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  12. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Lidl are selling Thermal windscreen protectors for £2.99 at the moment.
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  13. Stube

    Stube Backpacker

    I have used thermal windscreen protectors as a sleeping mat - a bit on the firm side but perfectly adequately for the odd night. But then in my youth I often slept on a bare wooden floor in just my synthetic bag!

    These days I use them mainly as additional insulation under my 3/4 self-inflating mats on the rare occasion when I'm camping on snow or ice.

    I've used self-inflating mats down to zero degrees (ice on tent) and never felt any cold from the ground. This in a 1/2 season bag with a +10 lower limit - but then I do sleep warm!

    I'm always amazed at how much better a thin cheap synthetic bag is at insulating you from the ground than any down bag. I understand why people consider down quilts more weight effective -I just find them drafty!
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  14. Imperial Dave

    Imperial Dave Ultralighter

    laminate floor insulation. I have used the 2mm and 3mm foam underlay type and they are a little bit susceptible to rips but the give insanely good warmth to weight ratio. I tend to fold into a sheet and put down the nack of the rucksack
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  15. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Found two posts mentioning these:-

    Bought one of these, its not a rectangle, its shaped to fit a windscreen more precise and has wings at each end to secure it in the doors. I reckon it could be cut to fit a Notch well - would be no more than 70g i reckon.

    I wasnt expecting the picture of the 3 penguins on one side...
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  16. Imperial Dave

    Imperial Dave Ultralighter

    no one ever does...............:eek:
  17. Max

    Max Ultralighter

    Capture camping mat.PNG

    I used one of these under my Duplex last year lasted my whole trip (5.5 months). It worked well as a ground sheet. I also used it to wrap my Arcblast in for protection when taking flights.
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  18. Clare

    Clare Ultralighter

    I think I'm going to try this this year. Any idea what it weighs? And... with these silver foil sheets, do you place the silver facing the ground to reflect the cold away from you or do you place it facing up to reflect your own body heat into the tent? Assuming that both sides are not silver, obviously.
  19. Max

    Max Ultralighter

    size I had was 1.5mx2m and weighed 123g this covered the duplex floor width wise but was maybe 150 mm short in length.
    Both sides are silver.
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  20. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Cold is the absence of heat and energy moves from hot to cold, therefore you cannot reflect cold; you can only reflect heat. While it may be that these mats will reflect hear whichever way up you use them, I would put it silver up to be sure.
    I got one of the mats that Tepee posted a link to; they fold up pretty small for foam mats, which I don't recall anyone mentioning so far.
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  21. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

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  22. Quixoticgeek

    Quixoticgeek Ultralighter

    Do these things stand up to being cut to size? Tempted to get one and cut it down to make up the foot section of the 3/4 length self inflating pad...

  23. Max

    Max Ultralighter

    They do. All you need is a pair of scissors.
  24. Quixoticgeek

    Quixoticgeek Ultralighter

    Excellent. Is any care needed with the edges? I've ordered one of the matts. it's 1.5m by 2m, so way too big, Will cut it down to a sensible size...

  25. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    I used aluminium tape over the cut ends of mine, not sure if its needed though.
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