Running trekking adaptable gear

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by Chiseller, Nov 16, 2018.

  1. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    On form this morning super chief :D
  2. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Putting on the Drymax winter sock, it turns out the crew length is more of a calf length!
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    The ultramarathon running store, offered to refund or replace them. I declined as I'll get use from them.
    They went to the trouble of measuring other stock and they are the same. Perhaps a packaging issue from Drymax?
    Until I hear from Drymax direct, bear in mind the length if ordering.
  3. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Just taken delivery of the S-Lab Peak 20. Initially I'm impressed. This is a multiday running /expedition racing pack that should be great for trekking as well.
    Weight wise, I've not weighed mine yet, quoted weights can be reduced by removing its clipped in pad.
    Here's a good breakdown until I use my own experience. I will post it in the pack section when I've done a few miles with it.
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  4. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Those were on my radar for a while... Too many Kilian videos!
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  5. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Initial reviews of the Omm Barrage jacket and inov8 G370 coming before boxing day sales...
  6. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    You did need a new pack then :)
  7. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Salomon Fastwing Hybrid.
    My latest Dual use garment... Excellent for running and should be great for trekking.
    I've started using it and I'm initially very happy for the slight gain in grams compared to my Inov8 windshell.

    This is far more breathable.

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  8. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    What weight is it?
  9. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

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    I can't recall... Around 127g...
    I'll confirm when I get home.
  10. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    I hope Dynafit is your sponsor and not the other way round. ;)
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  11. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    How fast is 'Fastpacking' ?
    I'm intrigued.
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  12. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I'm a slow fastpacker, but it's equally a balance between running, bimbling and power hiking....
    My pace for 17miles across unknown land, in the dark and stopping for pictures and checkins on Thursday was... Screenshot_20200211_204611_com.strava.jpg

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    I'm hill rusty but Im aiming for around a 15 minute mile average, regardless of terrain.
    A lot depends on how technical and how much distance your aiming to cover.
    Most of the spine racers from mid pack to top tier finishers are 'fastpackers'.

    Here's one that was my first ascent of the route, windy and technical... started the ascent at 3:20am, pitch black...
    Both times my pack load was around 5kg
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    Last year... The day before the Treklite meet... I did around 28miles and 9000ft of ascent averaging just over 3mph (not grade adjusted) and I was carrying full kit for the weather and camp.
  13. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    @edh I wouldn't say I fastpacked the Dales way last year, but I was happy to have covered the 90miles in 3 ½ days including a diversion and hearty meal in the pub, a sit down on a cafe and bimble around a village. And one final diversion to a fish shop for a sit down special. Plus losing my map and stopping to take way too many pictures... I reckon I could do it again in under 3 days with bivi gear if I've not been too idle prior :biggrin:
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  14. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Good stuff.
    Still intrigued.
    Definitions seen lacking...

    A mate did 21 consecutive 30 mile days on the PCT... I'm faster than him but don't have the same stamina so could never do that...
    In Andalusia I managed 3mph+ over 19 miles; to me that is fast walking...
    I'm just wondering where the 'line' lies...? Distance. Speed. Both...

    There's probably no answer?
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  15. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Fast walking is still fastpacking if your carrying gear for shelter and cooking or food for the trip.
    I'm no authority but for me it's being able to cover long distance faster than an average multi day hiker. Trail efficency can gain alot of time over distance.
    Your faster than your mate... But not faster than him over a longer distance.....whos the fast packer? Egg & chicken lol

    Edit.
    Depending on how hard the trail is? (and I'm not suggesting I could do better) but I'd be more impressed with averaging 40 plus miles a day. The weather, terrain, navigation and social side are all a large contribution to the overall pace.
  16. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    High bar.
    The FKT for the PCT is around 50mpd...:D
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  17. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    And elevation, terrain, at night! I struggle to do much better than 3 mph walking for more than a couple of hours in daylight on good paths without too much elevation gain. If I can run on the downhills it makes a tremendous difference to overall pace.
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  18. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    That's not difficult if you walk a bit and don't bother with all that 'brew' stuff...
    Agree though.
    Being fit enough to maintain good decision making helps. I unravel with that when tired..or overconfident
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  19. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Me too :bag:
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  20. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Inov8 Trail Shell
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    I can't trust pertex sheild from previous experience... Maybe fine for short spells but it will be interesting to see how it fairs with a pack on?
  21. Jim_Parkin

    Jim_Parkin Trail Blazer

    I have a ronhill running windshell that is a bizarrely breathable fabric compared to pertex at least. I think it's polyester. I mainly use it for cycle commuting (20km each way) as it has front pockets for my keys and work pass.

    It's quite old now, so I can't work out what it is, but it's still not lost its fluro yellow.
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  22. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I used to have a ronhill torrent or tempest jacket. It was a cracking bit of kit and I only passed it on due to shaving a few grams.
  23. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    I have a Tempest that I wear for runs near to home and have seen them worn on the Hardmoors marathon series in very bad conditions. Well designed. I like the way the hood rolls up, the large back vent which admittedly is useless if you have a backpack on and the fact that it fits in one of its pockets and has an elasticated waist belt to carry it. I do worry about how robust it would be for backpacking though.
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  24. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    Inov8 have just released the identity of their latest ambassador...
    James 'Mountain Man' Forrest
    He is a Fast-Hiker as opposed to Fast-Packer.
    This will hopefully lead to him influencing inov8 in product design that will benifit ultralight folks.
    I spoke with a representative of Inov8 in person at the weekend. He claims they are looking at making available some of their range in sizing styles that are not just aimed at racing snakes.
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  25. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    Pray tell us what the difference is.
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