Questions for Garmin Fenix or Forerunner 935 users.

Discussion in 'Gadgets & Tech' started by WilliamC, Jun 8, 2019.

  1. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    In the autumn I got a Fenix 5x+ watch. Since then, we've only been out on shortish (ca 50km) trips and I loaded a number of possible routes as kml or gpx files (we tend not to end up doing the actual route we set out to do so we need a few different options) and used the navigate option under the hiking activity to follow the route (called a course by the Fenix). This worked ok, although I could have done without losing part of the screen to tell me how far off course we were, or how far we had left.
    Then last week we were out for a 140km plus walk so I loaded in half a dozen or so "courses". This time whenever I tried to navigate a course it would either come up with an error message saying it was unable to calculate the route, or if the route did load it would hang every few seconds with a message saying "calculating", often for a minute at a time. I'm guessing that this was because the "courses" were larger files than I'd been using before.
    I could, I suppose, break up the "courses" into shorter sections but then with also having various route options the menu would become tedious to navigate, particularly as the Fenix shortens the name of the routes you load. (I recently found that if 2 routes have a similar name with the variation being at the end of the name, the Fenix, after shortening the name so that the variation is lost, then thinks the two routes must be the same and only imports one of them :(.)

    TLDR: Is there a way to simply display a route/course on the Fenix/Forerunner without having to choose to navigate it? On the Garmin Etrex, you can simply select any track and choose "show on map" from the menu and there it is, with as many tracks as you want displayed at once. Something like this on the Fenix would be great, if you know a way to do it. I found a way to display a course without navigating, but then if centres on the course and not your current position.
    The Fenix 5x+ has mapping, but if there's a way to display courses without navigating on non-mapping Fenix/Forerunners, it might be possible to do the same for the 5x+.
  2. Blah blah blah

    Blah blah blah Trail Blazer

    Jeez - I've got the same watch and can just about read the time on it.

    Good luck.
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  3. Davy

    Davy Section Hiker

    I've not actually got around to working out how to use the navigate function on my 5, just use my phone with Locus Pro, or paper and a compass... This has prompted some watching of YouTube clips.
  4. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    So on the 5 you can start an activity in this case 'hike' then press and hold middle left button to bring up menu and select navigation. then you can select a course. the options then become 'do course' or 'Map'. if you select map it will give a display centred on current location. may be worth a shot
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  5. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    There are also zoom arrows and with a press of the top right button the options change to scroll left right or up down. these are denoted by the little grey dots on the top right side of the screen

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  6. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    it still needs to load the course though so that may be your sticking point. although i selected garmin europe which was 99 miles away and it loaded no bother
  7. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    That's what I was doing, but it wasn't centering me on current location. I'll try playing around with this.
  8. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Locus Pro is what I used instead, but it meant using more phone battery and it wasn't as continuous as having the navigation on my wrist.
  9. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    maybe try zooming out and scrolling around to see current location?
  10. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    have you played with pulse ox much. do you see a difference at your altitudes?
  11. Micksjoiner

    Micksjoiner Trekker

  12. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    I haven't touched it. So far I'm just trying to get used to it as a navigational device (since map and compass aren't an option here). Maybe after the summer.
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  13. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Thanks, that did help to an extent. It seems that before the last walk, in an attempt to get the courses to display without navigating I'd switched from "follow course" to "use maps", which was causing the problem with calculating. Hopefully I can now follow longer courses.
    I still wish I could display all routes/courses at the same time, as you can with the Etrex.
  14. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    I had issues with my 5x+ on the CWT. After a few days it just wouldn't follow the gpx route full stop. It would either freeze and have to be restarted or be "loading" indefinitely and need restarted. I ended up just recording my route and even then it was glitchy. My altimeter always seems to be way off too, even soon after recalibrating, comparing to both the maps and our known height and a fenix 3 which seemed to be fairly accurate.
  15. Micksjoiner

    Micksjoiner Trekker

    I prefer to use viewranger to store routes and upload routes to 5x through dynamic watch as required.
    I also use talky toaster map overlay ,think it was £11 any problems with map upload Martin from talky toaster was great ,he even phoned to make sure everything was working ok
  16. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Do you know if you had it set to "follow course" or to "use maps", Craige?
    When recording a route, it seems to put down a lot more points than the Etrex does. As an example, on 1st June the Fenix put down 37,662 points compared to 2,114 for the Etrex.
    I've found the same with the altimeter. I've just reset it to continuously recalibrate so I'll see how it does next trip out.
  17. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Can you confirm that I'm understanding this correctly? You need to have your device connected to the internet to transfer routes between your phone and your device, you can't connect your device to your phone (via bluetooth, for example) and transfer routes from your phone to your device without an internet connection.
  18. Micksjoiner

    Micksjoiner Trekker

    Yes internet is required to transfer routes ,if you have routes on both devices viewranger let's you see all broken down routes on one place.
    Naming routes the same on both devices with 5x being limited to 15 symbols.hope this helps
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2019
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