Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by gixer, Jan 29, 2015.

  1. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    What do you wear after striking camp at night, for both round the tent and sleeping in?

    Finding it tough to go with my light weight clothing at night as i kinda look forward to "slipping into something more comfortable" :D

    Current faves are:
    • 260wt Icebreaer Oasis (long sleeved) top - 357g
    • Ron hill trackstars - 326g
    • Heat holder socks - 155g

    If it gets colder then i'll then wear:
    • PHD Ultradown pullover - 259g
    • Woollen Watch hat - 90g

    The Ultradown pullover and wool hat i can justify to myself as it's stuff i wear if i get cold when hiking.

    I'm really struggling to go with any light weight options for what are effectively my Pyjamas.
    On one hand it's nice to know that if i've walked all day and i'm wet and cold that i can slip into comfortable, warm, dry clothing soon.

    On t'other hand that's 838g in my rucksack that's only got one use

    I've got lightweight options
    • Rab MeCo 165 Bottoms - 203g
    • Rab MeCo 120 Long sleeved - 178g
    • Warm socks - 63g
    444g total so that's saving 394g straight off BUT i can't say as any of it is as cosy or comfortable.

    So i'm wondering what solutions you've come up with.
    Do you just sleep in the clothes you hike in, have some light weight solution or carry the clothing equivalent of comfort food like meself?

  2. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    TNF Lite Pants 90g and Rohan Ultra Silver T in short sleeve 60g or LS about 20g more. The socks for the next day. If it gets cold I'll put on my insulation; MB Down Inner Jacket usually.

    I use a sleeping bag liner.
  3. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    I always sleep and do my admin (Ha!) in my hiking clothes. Only if they are wet, dirty, or I'm too hot do the outer layers come off. Only thing I change is into dry comfy footwear (croc copies or booties in the cold) and clean socks. Pants every few days or as needed. I do love a bit of camping funk. :)

    On longer harder trips, I spray my 'trouble' areas with Iodine before the off, I find it keeps me a lot fresher for longer.

    Silk base layers have been a revelation to me over the past year. So comfy compared to anything I've used before and their ability to regulate my feeling of warmth over large temp ranges has only been equalled so far by my Angora (Rabbit) thermals.
  4. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    I dislike the man-made fabrics against my bare skin,I and want to prevent my bag from getting any grubbier than necessary, so almost always wear baselayers. Depends how cold it is - thinish merino for '3 seasons', merino plus down and/or powerstretch) if cold. I've recently got some silk baselayers for warmer times - yet to find out if I like them. I always think of these extra baselayers as spares - so dual usage :)
  5. rorymax

    rorymax Section Hiker


    I cannot afford all that lightweight high-tec gear, so for me it is one of these and much gritting of teeth, I added extensions to the hangy-down bits for extra comfort :p:

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  6. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Some good ideas there, thank you.

    Wow that's lighter than my socks :eek:
    Are they a shell type material?

    What happens if you take a fall and get your trousers wet and muddied up and it's a cold night?

    Same here.
    First priority is keeping my bag dry and clean, but i i'm being honest i also look forward to getting out of my hiking gear and into something more comfortable.
    My baselayer bottoms are fairly warm, but as i don't hike in really cold conditions they're 100% used as PJ's, as it's not likely to be cold enough to need them as a baselayer and i can't realistically walk around with baselayer under trousers these on at a village stop off while my hiking trousers dry.


    All joking aside a kilt wouldn't be a bad idea if they weren't so bloody itchy.
    T'other thing is i tend to do a lot of kneeling down around camp
    Thistles + kilt + squatting = :eek::eek::eek: ouch!!

    I guess i must be at a reasonable kit weight level now as to go any lighter means making compromises.
    Lighter tent - single layer
    Lighter rucksack - only comfortable carrying lighter weights

    Guess i'll need to work out if my clothing that's not much more than PJ's is a compromise i'm willing to take.
    It's a shame Ron Hill doesn't do and bottoms that are around 150g but still wearable without looking like supermans cycling cousin
  7. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    What happens if you take a fall and get your trousers wet and muddied up and it's a cold night?

    Lots of options;
    Sleep in my waterproof trews instead if it's that cold and go foetal.
    Could use a bin bag as a liner to keep the bag reasonably dry and clean.
    Could light a fire to dry out.
    Night in a bothy.
    Stay awake all night.
    Put legs in rucksack.
    Use a hot water bottle.
    Run/hike until stuff is dry.
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  8. Quixoticgeek

    Quixoticgeek Ultralighter

    Are the montane terra pack trousers not designed with this sort of thing in mind? Paired with a RAB aeon top, you have something not much more than 300g.

    Personally my approach is a variant on jungle practice. I have two sets of clothes, a dry set, and a wet set. Which are basically my night and day set respectively. Make camp, stay in the wet set (with added insulation), until it's time to goto bed, or crawl into a sleeping bag - When it's really cold I'll cook from my sleeping bag, so will change before doing so. It means putting the cold wet set on in the morning. But it also means you're dry during the night, which should keep you warmer, and it also allows better management of moisture in the sleeping bag/bivvi bag.

    On my recent trip out, I didn't switch from my wet socks to my dry socks fast enough, meaning that by the time I had made camp, my toes had gone numb, and it too me hours to get them warm again, even with clean dry socks on.

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  9. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    The Rohan Ultra stuff is a bit like silk; I've been using the LS top for a few years and match that with the boxers for sleeping. Not the most robust of materials....you don't really want to go bushwhacking in it.
  10. Hedley Heap

    Hedley Heap Section Hiker

    Like others I usually sleep in baselayer, which as has been said are dual purpose keeping my bag clean and can be used as added insulation during the day if necessary.
    This year I've been mainly wearing http://www.decathlon.co.uk/techfresh-50-ls-t-shirt-id_8282507.html on top, long sleeve in winter and short sleeve otherwise.
    Don't like betty swallocks so take my most worn thin over washed baselayer bottoms I can find when packing.
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2015
  11. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    They're 282g according to the Montane site and the Aeon is listed as 100g

    Certainly a LOT lighter than my hillies and top but that's about the same weight as me Rab MeCo top and bottoms.

    T'other thing is i like my Terra slacks, but i can't say that the idea of sleeping in em for 5 nights fills me with joy :D

    I've gotten into the same habit over the years, i do tend to change after we've struck camp though if it's dry, rather than wait till i hit the sack

    Never really looked at Rohan stuff.
    I made a similar post about 1 year ago on another forum and someone suggested some really lightweight Rohan slacks, but i was unable to find them over here and as returns postage is expensive here i didn't want to risk ordering on-line not knowing how they are sized.

    Really really like how they list drying time in their site, very useful.
    Just a shame they don't have the option of listing by weight like the ULOG site

    It's looking like a light baselayer is the best option.
    If i need to wear them at a town stop then i'll just have to pop my WP bottoms over em to save peoples eyes.

    I do find it pretty amazing that my 2 favourite pieces of outdoor kit (Ron Hills, ME Ultrafleece pullover) are around 20 years old and STILL better than anything i can find with modern fabric.

    I've tried several pairs of lighterweight running tights on, but non seem to fit my admittedly tree truck sized legs as well.

    I'd happily sacrifice some warmth with thinner fabric if i could find some tights that weren't so tight you can measure my pulse rate that were say 150g
  12. Tartanferret

    Tartanferret Thru Hiker

    Baselayers for me most of the time (Icebreaker)

    Also have Montane fireball smock, prism pants and some down booties to go on top if need be.

    A merino balaclava is a good addition too
  13. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

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  14. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    Is it a bit noisy Ed? My copy drove me mad with the noise of the material rubbing on my ears.
  15. Stephen

    Stephen Trail Blazer

    I use a pair of appropriate thickness base layer leggings and long sleeve top (or hoody), during the summer I might just bring spare skids and a tee shirt.
  16. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Somebody else mentioned that Teepee, but I've never noticed it, the material is very soft.
    Perhaps your ears are the problem :D
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  17. Robin

    Robin Moderator Staff Member

  18. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Pity the LS is not available in white too.
  19. Gazelle

    Gazelle Ultralighter

    I sleep in my merino hiking LS top and pack a pair of 200 weight merino leggings (about 180g). I, as others seem to, put the next days socks on for bed time.
    If my head is cold I'll wear a merino possum hat.
    Full body covering without much weight.
  20. Social Climber

    Social Climber Trail Blazer

    I am liking this Rohan stuff, thanks for the heads up.
    Super happy with my kit but pouring over spreadsheets this winter I decided to lighten up my sleeping gear, I think i now have an answer!

    Cheers again folks.
  21. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    It paints a grim picture mate....
  22. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Rohan Ultra silver is nice stuff, I also carry the undercrackers as spares.

    One point on durability, it does feel really delicate, like it would click or bobble, but I've worn it a few times the next day walking with rucksack.
    No clicks or wear... yet I have a few synth baselayers where that happened after a couple of trips.
  23. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    On the other hand my versions (about three years of wear) have shrunk a bit (or I've got bigger) and the boxers have holes, both pairs, with not too heavy use.
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  24. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    See my comment above to Stephen....
  25. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

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