Pegs in rocky areas

Discussion in 'Shelters & Accessories' started by KVerb, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. KVerb

    KVerb Summit Camper

    Hi all,

    this summer I'm going to the French Alps, in an area mostly covered in slate. My V-shaped and Y-shaped pegs hold up fine in the woods and meadows here in Belgium, but I'm pretty sure they would bend or break in rocky underground.
    Based on other comments, I should probably get me some Ti nails. Which length, diameter, brand, ... would give me the best bang for my buck? First hand experience would be nice but any other kind of hints are also very welcome!
  2. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    I've got Vargos; still unbroken after 10 years use....
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  3. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I'd probably take a few skinny shepherd hooks as well as some Ti nails, you can worm two or three in at funky angles when the ground is rocky.
  4. The Yank

    The Yank Trekker

    I would avoid the ultralight version of the Vargo titanium nails and go for the regular nails instead. I find the UL versions break at the hole the tie out loop goes through when driving them into rocky ground. I had 3 out of 8 fail on one trip.
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  5. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    Another vote for the Vargo Ti Nails, a bit heavy at ~14g but they work. As @shrewie says a few Ti sheppards crook for secondary tie outs.
  6. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    I ordered some Toaks UL Ti Nails from AliExpress (the lighter 9g ones) and was sent some non Toaks 15g jobs that looked very much like this

    Seem solid enough, i reckon they will do the job


    p.s trying to explain to the seller he had sent the wrong item was comical
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2018
  7. dovidola

    dovidola Ultralighter

    Yep. 15g ti nails from AliExpress. Mine seem solid enough. I find 6 of them and 6 ti V-pegs makes a good combo to deal with most situations, using the most suitable ones at the main pegging points and 'relegating' the others to secondary pegging points.
  8. tom

    tom Section Hiker

    In alpine locations, I usually carry to 2 Vargo Ti Nails and use them to open the ground for less robust pegs if necessary - usually an assortment of MSR groundhogs, Easton and a few Ti heppard pins. Not broken anything either in quite some years. I wouldn't take more Ti nails as they are little use in soft ground.
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  9. The Yank

    The Yank Trekker

    The nails are also described as a "self defense survival tool." Now I'm wondering just what kind of weapon I could fashion from them.
  10. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    +1 to Tom's comment. Clamcleats do an extra long ti nail.
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  11. KVerb

    KVerb Summit Camper

    Most of those that I can find are pretty expensive and/or have expensive shipping... I did find these on a Dutch website and there are a lot of options on Ali. Does anyone have experience with those cheaper alternatives? If not, then I'd probably rather shell out for the tried and tested brands and be at ease that my tent won't blow away ..
  12. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Ali ones seem fine to me, go straight thru chalk
  13. KVerb

    KVerb Summit Camper

    Which ones do you have?
  14. dovidola

    dovidola Ultralighter

    I got mine on AliExpress from Tito Titanium. £11.07 for 6 including postage. They've been fine.
  15. dovidola

    dovidola Ultralighter

    Use one nail peg to open the ground for a wider peg. Simple. So simple, in fact, that I'd never thought of this. Brilliant!
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  16. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    The15g ones

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