Patagonia Houdini together with Gatewood cape

Discussion in 'Clothing & Footwear' started by FOX160, Apr 30, 2018.

  1. FOX160

    FOX160 Section Hiker

    Right there is method in my madness, I am looking at the Gatewood Cape together with the Ali Express solid inner as a 1 person shelter https://www.aliexpress.com/item/T-d...e4ed-4013-9349-1f2dd8aec33f&priceBeautifyAB=0 Now the reason I am considering the Houdini is that when erecting/erected the shelter or when I may need to put the Houdinihttps://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.c...light-shell-windtops-c49/houdini-jacket-p8698 on first if the weather is really bad, or when there is a lot of condensation whilst wearing the cape.
    Not only that but weighing my rain jacket 433g against the Houdini/Gatewood cape and inner 754g and minus my rain jacket = 321g saving. Now the question is is the Gatewood Cape and the Houdini any good for our harsh weather.
    Any help would be useful. ; )
  2. andreostergard

    andreostergard Trail Blazer

    @JonB want to chime in on the Gatewood cape?

    As for the Houdini that’s my go to rain jacket. I’ve used the Torrentshell before but the condensation building up inside makes up for what the Houdini can’t handle
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  3. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    I'd go for a deschutes tarp and light waterproof ( ak gravitas or similar) just over 500g and you'll stay dryer in a breeze. A few quid more mind. Gatewood is tempting at that price but I wouldn't wear one. Narrow minded as I am.
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  4. FOX160

    FOX160 Section Hiker

    @andreostergard thanks, so the Houdini is a good jacket and how much of a down pour can it handle before wetting out.
  5. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    It depends how many times you've washed it or how long it's been since re-dwr. I've had 20 minutes of medium rain with no wind before it wetted out. It's a pretty nice jacket for what it does but it's definitely not a waterproof.
  6. andreostergard

    andreostergard Trail Blazer

    Patagonia says it’s an emergency rain jacket. And that’s very true.

    Brand new it can stand a few hours of constant rain (hard to compare rain to rain). Usually stars wetting out in the usual pressure spots. After a few washes it drops a little but if you follow the care instructions it holds up pretty good.

    Torrentshell or similar is more of a standard rain jacket.
  7. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    Just clicked the link... maybe they've changed the fabric as they've definitely changed the design a little. Mine definitely wetter out quicker than a couple of hours, it was beading water to a point but still leaking (I got wet). Mine is maybe 4 years old.
  8. Arne L.

    Arne L. Section Hiker

    Aren't we confusing the Patagonia Alpine Houdini (rainshell) with the Houdini (windshell)?

    I have no experience with the Alpine one but plenty with the regular Houdini. As much as I love it for running (in winter) or backpacking (every season), it does not keep me dry any longer then 10 minutes.

    I do love the fit, the breathability, the hood & the weight. Didn't take on my Eifelsteig walk as I thought it would be mostly walking in the woods but I regretted that decision as soon as I walked across windy German fields on the first day... :rolleyes:
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2018
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  9. andreostergard

    andreostergard Trail Blazer

    Ah! I have both and they’re always in my kit.

    Windshell Houdini, light drizzle for a short period of time. Very breathable.

    Alpine Houdini as described above.

    Sorry for the confusion.
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  10. JonB

    JonB Trail Blazer

    Hi there

    I really wouldn’t say that the Gatewood is made for harsh weather. Personally I only use it below the tree line here in the southern parts of Sweden. By comparison the HMG and Locus Gear tents I have used are on a compete other level.
  11. FOX160

    FOX160 Section Hiker

    No probs appreciate your help
  12. FOX160

    FOX160 Section Hiker

    Thanks @JonB another rethink ; )
  13. FOX160

    FOX160 Section Hiker

    Maybe buy the Alpine still an average weight saving of 183g against my TNF hard shell rain jacket
    unless that won’t compete:/
  14. Max

    Max Ultralighter

    I'm using a similar setup Patagucci wind pants Rab wind shirt Gatewood cape.
    I wanna write something to help here but don't have the time in with this set up. Give me a couple more months and will give you a complete review if you can wait that long.
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  15. Victor

    Victor Backpacker

    I use a Gatewood Cape, Arc'teryx Squamish Hoody (with DWR), and wind pants. This is what I plan to use when going to the Norwegian mountains next time. People use small flat tarps in harsh conditions. Why wouldn't a well placed and correctly pitched Gatewood Cape stand that test? Billy Goat has used one for many years...

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