Pa'lante Packs

Discussion in 'Packs & Accessories' started by fluffkitten, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I'm quite into the minimalist approach which these guys are advocating at the moment, it's completely alien to anything else I do in life, trying to adopt that mentality for hiking is quite a challenge for me, I find throwing money at the problem usually helps :) There's a bunch I follow online, mostly twenty somethings, with a great approach to life it seems, hike when you're young and worry about the rest later :) I suppose it works in a country like the US, the options are so vast, I don't think I could wonder these shores for five or six months in one hit without getting a bit bored.

    I've tried to get as near as I can to these 6lb pack loads, but for 3 or 4 days in the northern UK I just can't quite get there without a level of discomfort and misery, I just can't bring myself to ditch the sleeping pad and cook set. But with kit rationolised it's quite refreshing to head into the hills for a few days with a small light pack on the back, I don't think I could pull it off on any LDP though, certainly not 2600 miles, that's where these guys earn their kudos for me.

    But yeah it's nothing new, I suppose the tech is improving though
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  2. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    I can see the attraction of the minimal bag.

    I really can't see the clothing levels listed as being appropriate long term for UK hills though. Except maybe on the half dozen true summer days we get!
    Most of the US is continental and 10-20degrees of latitude further south than us.
    Also, let's face it, most on here ( some exceptions I know) are middle aged or approaching it, and will most likely need more insulation sleeping and static than these superfit 20something hikers.

    Over the last 6 weeks backpacking trips; from the Pyrenees to Dartmoor to NW Highlands, my pack contents have varied a fair amount due to what conditions I might expect. I find I often to take a little too much of stuff in general

    On the Pyrenees trip especially, we were mulling on how to reduce the clothing/gear we take, and what was omitted. Apart from a baselayer set, trek shirt and sleep socks, I ended up walking in everything else on the last bad weather day - Inc fleece and Rab xenon. My liner gloves were inadequate too.

    On the Scottish trip, due to conditions, I wouldn't have been able to dry anything other the thin nylon gear (e.g. trousers), so needed bed baselayers and spare undies too. It's just too uncomfortable and smelly to hang out in your 4 days old clothes when there's 12hours of darkness.

    I did use a CCF mat for 4 days ( my klymit mat failed, but next day I was able to rob a CCF mat from the piles in a nearby bothy). It was ok. I'm going to try it again for 3 season use. Light, but bulky.
  3. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    @Mole - ^^^ agree.

    In addition, I'm never going to be 'fast', 12hr days are beyond my aged bod. Small miles + leisurely pace + a few more grams = comfort :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
  4. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    'Some' US trails are pretty easy going...if I can knock off multiple 25 milers they must be...

    Mind you I'm totally knackered now :D
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  5. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    There are still hopes I will be able to get some sort of hill fitness back ……… in due course/eventualy :whistling::whistling::angelic:
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  6. Ken T.

    Ken T. Ultralighter

    The packs are popping up used now on BPL. Two yesterday.

    Everything old is new again. US Army wants to bring back the WWll uniforms.
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  7. theoctagon

    theoctagon Thru Hiker

  8. fluffkitten

    fluffkitten Thru Hiker

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  9. theoctagon

    theoctagon Thru Hiker

    Pa'lante charity auction, 35L Spooky Pack


    eBay, all proceeds to the PCT Association :)
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  10. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    Shipping to US only, not that I need another pack
  11. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

  12. fluffkitten

    fluffkitten Thru Hiker

    Interesting. It really does need a top vent.
  13. murpharoo

    murpharoo Section Hiker

    It looks very very similar to the first generation Hexamid only with perimeter netting vs full netting floor.

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  14. theoctagon

    theoctagon Thru Hiker

    I've been thinking about adding some netting to the one I made but probably fully enclosed like the hexamid tents...

    How much does your original hexamid weigh @murpharoo ?
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2017
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  15. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Not sure how zpacks would feel if they started selling those....
    In John z's video he shows two prototype shelters, this one and an A frame with bug netting. I know he only carries one pole so guess his preference would be this design. A Hexhamid copy is top of my list of things I'd like to make but know I'd never use :o o:
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  16. Dave5791

    Dave5791 Trail Blazer

    As an owner of a Hexamid, I now seriously ask myself how practical they are for the British climate. Like everything else in life they have good points and bad points and depending on the conditions they are used in sometimes the good outweigh the bad.

    Can Neemor's Pa'lante loan really be all that useful in areas other than where there is minimal precipitation? Even though the sides are more or less pinned to the ground (affecting airflow) the whole of the front is basically open to the elements and he still complained of condensation, which reading between the lines, must've been pretty bad.

    Don't get me wrong, the Hexamid is a good tarp/tarptent with an efficient design but other than its weight, portability/packability and lack of sag, sometimes I struggle to see its other 'strengths'.

    Anyone got similar thoughts or experiences?
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  17. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I ask myself the same question with most kit out of the US, I'm reluctant to splash out on kit that would only be practical two or three days a year over here. There are some gems but others I wouldn't entertain, this is probably one of them.
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  18. fluffkitten

    fluffkitten Thru Hiker

    He was using that thing on the Long Trail which has a habit of being really wet. Still not really what I'd want to use here.
  19. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    Pretty much my sentiments too :thumbsup:
  20. murpharoo

    murpharoo Section Hiker

    260g inc guylines and cuben sack.
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  21. theoctagon

    theoctagon Thru Hiker

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  22. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    Crikey light, or crikey heavy? :)
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  23. theoctagon

    theoctagon Thru Hiker

    Dyneema-X version went up on the site not long ago, there was a couple left when I looked but I imagine they'll go quick

    Last edited: Nov 19, 2017
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  24. Arne L.

    Arne L. Ultralighter

    Sold out already! :thumbsdown:
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  25. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    I'm sure if you wanted one, or perhaps something possibly better @theoctagon could help you out....
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