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Discussion in 'Sleep Mats' started by Fossil Bluff, Oct 15, 2020 at 5:55 PM.

  1. Fossil Bluff

    Fossil Bluff Section Hiker

    Probably a little heavy fro you lightweight dudes and dudesses :)

  2. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    I fell asleep in the middle of the video... :hilarious:
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  3. Fossil Bluff

    Fossil Bluff Section Hiker

    That's how comfy the Xtherm is, mate :thumbsup:

    Actually, come to think of it, that's a good ploy to get 'watch hours' up :D
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  4. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Is that an old Prolite 3?

    What on earth persuaded you to get one of those things :rolleyes: ?
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  5. Fossil Bluff

    Fossil Bluff Section Hiker

    I can still hear it now: "You'll be fine Bluff, just stick your legs on your bag, that's what I do"... Mind you, it works well.:thumbsdown:
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  6. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    :mooning: you were always a sucker for the sweet talk :inlove:
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  7. Fossil Bluff

    Fossil Bluff Section Hiker

    You and you bleddy airline pillow with a straw...
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  8. edh

    edh Thru Hiker

    Still have plenty :D
    They do actually work....
    In fact, I shall take one on my forthcoming trip :p
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  9. Baldy

    Baldy Thru Hiker

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    Fossil Bluff Section Hiker

  11. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    This got me checking the R value on the Neoair Xlite Womens, quite surprised how high it is.

    I use it in winter with a 3mm barrier underlay underneath it. I still feel its better if i also put a sitmat under it where my hip rests when side sleeping, sometimes feel the cold at that pressure point.

    Anyone know the R value of an original Neoair? (like 1st gen square corners)
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  12. Fossil Bluff

    Fossil Bluff Section Hiker

    The Venture is 2.2 - would it not be the same?
  13. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    2.5 I think, I used mine in Scotland a couple of weeks ago, still one of my favourite mats
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  14. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Found something that says it is 2.5 in old R value money.

    So like the Neoair Xlite Regular is now 4.2 but it would have been 3.2 using old ratings. So maybe between 3-4 on new ratings.

    Neoair Xlite Womens is 5.4 on new ratings, impressive.
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  15. Lucille Vamoose

    Lucille Vamoose Backpacker

    Petra, The Rose of Devonia: '...'twas the truth in her eye ever beaming...' ;):)
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  16. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    One point to note is that testing of inflatable mats is carried out with it FULLY inflated, deflating a bit for comfort reduces the R value.
    Also 'squeeze' points like the hips & shoulders will similarly reduce the R value locally. Like @el manana I like to slip the CCF sit mat under the X-lite at the hips to reduce this cold spot, it also makes a big difference when sitting up on the same spot.
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  17. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    I've noticed my mats are slightly warmer since they upped the stated R value....
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  18. Fossil Bluff

    Fossil Bluff Section Hiker

    Since Brexit mine have suffered from inflation...
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  19. Lempo

    Lempo Thru Hiker

    Better than deflation...
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  20. OwenM

    OwenM Section Hiker

    I have an original full length 1.25 inch thick thermarest and a 3/4 length 3/4 inch thick "lightweight" one. These are pre R values, anyone have any idea what their R value could be?
  21. lentenrose

    lentenrose Trail Blazer

    i am beginning to resent all those photos of your- dog----i feel she looks more intelligent than me----and better looking--------------back to subject-----30 year old??-----10 mm rollmat r number unknown but doesn t seem to melt much snow underneath so i presume its working----reliable and warm
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  22. Fossil Bluff

    Fossil Bluff Section Hiker

    If Petra had opposable thumbs to switch on the camera, she'd leave me at home... :D

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