MLD Trailstar Info needed please?

Discussion in 'Shelters & Accessories' started by buntonn, Aug 12, 2017.

  1. buntonn

    buntonn Backpacker

    Hi I've just taken delivery of a copy of the MLD Trailstar from AliExpress which I saw on here getting good comments. On setting it up which I'm very impressed with but want to know how it differed from the original in regards to fitting an inner. What attachments does the original Trailstar have to fit the inner? On my copy there are no fittings on the sheet itself except where the cords are.

    Just want to see if this is the same and it connects using the walking pole and the cord connectors or I'd need an original one to get an inner fitted.

  2. Jamess

    Jamess Trail Blazer

    An original mld trailstar has a mitten hook in the peak and mitten hooks half way along each seam.

    I never use an inner in my trailstar. I simply use a bivy bag and enjoy all that space.
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  3. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Which inner are you considering?

    Only Trailstar specific inners (MLD/oookworks/bearpaw) fit really well.

    As James says. Original TS has a loop in the apex and loops part way up each seam.

    Other symmetrical inners might fit tidily with the Trailstar at certain heights, but tie outs will have to be bespoke.
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  4. buntonn

    buntonn Backpacker

    Thanks guys, not really sure yet @Mole I was looking T the ones sold by ookworks so guess it might be that. I think the best thing to do here is to go use the one I now have with my bivvi bag as @Jamess said he does and if I fine it's not great in quality or want an inner I can go shop at MLD's website for the genuine version.

    Quite looking forward to giving it a try as I love the look of it and can't believe the space under in comparison to the footprint.
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  5. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Not used an inner with mine yet ( bought 2012)

    It's great in wind. Like it for that plus weight to space, but prefer the Scarp overall.

    And also prefer steeper walled mids. I have. (Golite hex and Oware 9x9)

    But TS is most windworthy.
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  6. Chris2901

    Chris2901 Ultralighter

    There is an oookstar XL in a German UL-forum for €200 incl. shipping inside Germany.
  7. buntonn

    buntonn Backpacker

    @Mole after reading that I think I'll need to get a few nights under the tarp to see if I feel I would want an inner or not, if you've done 5 years without, then it's well worth a try without. What do you use re miges when sleeping as my bivvi and bag don't have any mesh.
  8. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    I take Smidge and a headnet , but I like a full inner if midges definitely gonna be around. No tarp for this softy then!

    I (we) have got a few tents to choose from...

    The last 2 trips to Scotland were with @Fair Weather Camper so we took our Stratospire 2. Previously I took a LaserPhoton for 9days(never again!) and also the Scarp for 2xfortnight trips; before that a Golite Hex 3, before that a Robert Saunders Spacepacker or Heavy Vango dome.

    @Munro277 is the man who has serious Trailstar nights under his belt
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  9. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I last used my inner on the CWT in 2014, I usually just take my Superlight bivvy instead. But if it's going to be thick with midges it's not much fun in a bivvy bag so the inner gets packed, although they weren't too bad on the CWT I was glad I'd taken it.
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  10. buntonn

    buntonn Backpacker

    Thanks guys, all helpful info here :thumbsup:
  11. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

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  12. Fair Weather Camper

    Fair Weather Camper Ultralighter

    Slightly more n a few tents tbh, but never quite enough :oops:

    The 'perfect' shelter, is always just one purchase away :whistling:
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  13. Dave Vaughan

    Dave Vaughan Backpacker

    I use a bearpaws pyra1 when the midges are about or when I'm camping close to water. I am working on a bivvy bag at the minute that should replace it. Sean at Oookworks makes some good gear so well worth a look but I would give it a few goes without and see how you get on
  14. grattygruff

    grattygruff Backpacker

    I like the look of banana bivvy mod mole
    I will ask the better half to sew up an inferior copy for me forthwith
    My only concern is that once i glued a mitten hook onto the knotstar to hang the head end i will be limiting my pitch options somewhat
    Do you think it could be hung from the top of my pacerpole support or would this skew the bivvy fabric too much
    I've even thought about using a pair of small super strong magnets to sandwich the knotstar fabric and mitten hook in place but it sounds a bit out there
    Mind you if it's good enough for the hood of a £400+ Berghaus jacket then maybe.......
  15. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Maybe something similar to this?
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  16. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    You could put loops on each seam MLD style? Wouldn't take long. Then just have one mitten book on the bivi line.
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  17. grattygruff

    grattygruff Backpacker

    I'm sure I've got some of those somewhere
  18. Graham

    Graham Thru Hiker

    @grattygruff - sounds like you have access to a seamstress which is handy ;)

    Personally I'd stitch grosgrain loops on the seams as @Mole suggests. To attach the bivi I'd recommend threading the mitten hook through the loop then attaching it to the shockcord below the loop. Clipping the mitten hook direct to the loop will end in profanities.

    As a short-term option/way of assessing best placement for permanent loops, you could use some fishing line/thin cord (not going to hold much weight) that's long enough to reach all the way along the main seam from apex to corner peg/grosgrain loop. Tie an overhand loop midway along the cord or at whatever height (adjustable) you find works best to attach the bivi mitten hook. Clove hitch to trekking pole/peg at either end. You can move the line to different corners depending on what side of the shelter you sleep on.
  19. grattygruff

    grattygruff Backpacker

    Thanks for the suggestion Graham
    Whether my in house seamstress is any good remains to be seen
    She is just going to start a jerry chair for me then hopefully the bivvy mod before my next trip out

    I like your thinking re testing out best positions
    I've got the cord, mitten hook, grosgrain and shock cord so it would be doable

    I just wish I hadn't seam sealed the outer seams already as I'm guessing this may make the wife curse

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