MLD Bug Bivvi 2

Discussion in 'Shelters & Accessories' started by buntonn, Aug 29, 2017.

  1. buntonn

    buntonn Summit Camper

  2. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    A useful addition to the range

    Having owned a mkI version for a while I can't see how these can work too well under anything but a tarp though?
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  3. fluffkitten

    fluffkitten Thru Hiker

    Could be nice with my 9x5 tarp. Certainly better than the Knot bivi.
  4. Padstowe

    Padstowe Section Hiker

    I have the bug bivvy only used it twice though under a tarp & will use it again this week in the trailstar. This looks like it may keep a bit more breeze off you under a tarp, don't see it being overly useful for what you mention unless you'd be pitching the mid or trailstar with a high fly imo.
  5. oreocereus

    oreocereus Section Hiker

    Padstowe I think this or the new EE bivy are exactly what I want in a bivvy. Offers better coverage from rain and draft under a tarp than a regular bug bivvy but with ample ventilation. More comfortable camping in clear weather without a tarp (should cut a lot of draft).
  6. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    Must be seriously thin materials to come out lighter then the Knot bivi. How light is too light?
  7. Ken T.

    Ken T. Section Hiker

    From the specs,
    "Mountain 10D 3X DWR head, foot, and side panels work to provide more overall protection in harsher, changing, and more northern climates. Our 30D Pro SilNylon floor has over 4,000+ mm water resistance and is far tougher than lighter 15D or 20D lightly coated nylons!"
  8. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    The weight saving must be mostly in the mesh then. Fair play to Ron, he uses the best materials. That's part of the reason his stuff is pricey.
  9. Jamess

    Jamess Ultralighter

    It's innovative I guess, but the top entry has me scratching my head somewhat.

    Just imagine trying to get in and out of it under a TS pitched low.

    I'm struggling to understand the advantages over a conventional inner. Have I missed something?
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  10. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    I think the idea would be to unhook the front end from the roof, climb in, mostly zip-up, then re-hook the front end and finish the zipping.
  11. Padstowe

    Padstowe Section Hiker

    I think the top entry makes sense for tarp use where you'd need a dual sided entry for access no matter the pitch(sorry should read to cover all pitches). I've used the bug bivvy a few nights under the tarp & one under the TS & as Rog says the best is to unhook the head & climb in, otherwise it would be good for your limbo practice.
    Last edited: Sep 9, 2017
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  12. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    My guess is that 10D & the mesh are both 0.7oz/ yard (27g/ m2) which is pretty standard & fairy robust.
  13. oreocereus

    oreocereus Section Hiker

    -Weight for those who really count the grams.
    -smaller pack size
    -simplicity (unless you can leave your inner attached to your tarp when you pack it and set it up)
    -more protection means you can cowboy camp on cooler and breezier nights when the bugs are out. Also supplements those with smaller tarps better than a net tent
    - small size is obviously a disadvantage for many people, but if you need to pitch reeeeally low, your bivvy shoulnt lose shape, whereas an inner would have loose folds of bug netting flapping against you. Depending how your inner attaches it can also collapse the bathtub floor (obviously there are ways to work around this, but they are fiddly).

    Basically fills a niche between bivvy and net tent.
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2017
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  14. RoughHiker

    RoughHiker Summit Camper

    I am thinking of getting this or an innernet from MLD.This would be cheaper than innernet,as i already have a cat-cut tarp,otherwise i will have to get a Pyramid too.
    However innernet+pyramid is more weatherproof,plus you can camp away from trees.(i dont use trekking poles).Downside is larger footprint and a bit more weight.

    Your thoughts?
  15. Lady Grey

    Lady Grey Thru Hiker

    Or you could buy
    Or you could buy my MLD Inner net that's posted up for sale
  16. RoughHiker

    RoughHiker Summit Camper

    Yes,that was the idea.I would need to get an Pyramid also,and have not decided on size yet...
  17. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    Not 100% protection, but the skirt I sewed around my Golite Hut 1 has been very effective, and means you're not forever messing with zips and hooks when you need to fiddle with kit or put on a brew. My poncho-tarp groundsheet only loosely overlaps the inner bottom edge of the skirt, so rain and condensation end up wicking down and under it.
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  18. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    @Rog Tallbloke ^^ "Not 100% protection, but the skirt I sewed around my Golite Hut 1 has been very effective"

    You must be avoiding the Scottish Highlands in July and Aug then ?? :D

  19. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    Too right. But I can cope with a few stray midges in a tent. It's being eaten by a cloud of them that is insufferable.
  20. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    They were almost insufferable (for us) on still mornings and evenings on a couple of pitches in the end of May this year. Full inner, thank you. Smidge and headnets if venturing out.
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  21. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    It's when they fill your nose so you can not breath, and your mouth so you cannot eat :rage::cry:. - Then a head net is the only way to not go stark stirring mad.
    Long trouser tucked in, long sleeves and gloves. and no holes for them crawl inside.
    One of the reasons that prevents Scoland from becoming an over developed 'holiday resort' for the masses :nailbiting:………..Oh, that and the weather. He, He.

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