Mat slippage

Discussion in 'Sleep Mats' started by Tartanferret, Mar 28, 2019.

  1. Taz38

    Taz38 Thru Hiker

    Looking at their web site, grey side up.
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  2. Jon jons

    Jon jons Ultralighter

    Will continue to do as I thought. Maybe I was reading upside down.
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  3. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

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  4. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    My downmat is a side up.
  5. Jon jons

    Jon jons Ultralighter

    Going to just sleep on the edge of my 5l to be safe.
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  6. Foxster

    Foxster Section Hiker

    Both sides are black once you turn off your torch :cool:
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  7. Taz38

    Taz38 Thru Hiker

    But only one side has the grid pattern right? Which should be up it seems.
    Mine is actually dark grey and light grey.
  8. Jon jons

    Jon jons Ultralighter

    Stop the world I want to get off.....
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  9. Shaun Phillips

    Shaun Phillips Backpacker

    I'm going to try a small square piece of non slip drawer liner from Ikea, saves permanently marking your kit...
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  10. Shaun Phillips

    Shaun Phillips Backpacker

  11. Taz38

    Taz38 Thru Hiker

    I've coated my mats in silicone dots (blobs in some cases)... my last trip was a slide-fest.
  12. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    Similar idea fron @tom is that very thin white foam sheet that comes wrapped around new tv, hi fi, speakers etc.
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  13. Chiseller

    Chiseller Thru Hiker

    I slept on a sheet of similar foam on Sunday night .. This is screen packaging with a foil front....
    That was after my used twice exped hl hw .slipped from under me and was lifted skywards off the mountain to finish up in the North Atlantic probably... Apologies to the marine life .. And my wife .
  14. Nevis

    Nevis Section Hiker

    I have a piece of Plastazote for under my mat when its a bit chilly. Last week when i was out i found the mat would slide around on the foam, so i was thinking of somehow attaching some grommets or tabs to the foam to run some thin shock cord around it to hold the mat and foam together. Anyone any idea how to attach grommets or tabs to the foam without damaging it?


  15. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    Impact adhesive effectively glues to CCF, Seamgrip works as well & is probably more flexible. Would be easy enough to glue a patch with a loop stitched to it onto it, as I've done with the Thermarest & S2S pillow.
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  16. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    Plastic tarp grommets ( the type you hammer together) work on up to 10 mm CCF. I've done a few on 3mm ccf underlay, and on thicker mats. Just leave out the rubber washer.

    Like these:

    My local hardware shop sells them as does a camping shop (Gelert brand).
    Last edited: Apr 17, 2019
  17. Nevis

    Nevis Section Hiker

    Cheers guys, i’ll look at those options when i get back, i’m out with the future missus looking at engagement rings.... might need to sell a kidney before i can buy anything!!! :)
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  18. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

  19. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    Related to slippage: when a pitch is not flat, which is usually, what tricks do people use to avoid slide?

    I carried the @tom palma foil/foam mat intending to use it for warmth boost but ended up rolling it up and wedging it under the lower side of my mat to get the lie flatter. I also stuck my spare socks, warm hat and anything else at intervals along the edge. All these items are lightweight, therefore pathetically non- existent as wedges.

    Any other tips? Or better, tips to get a flatter pitch. Perhaps my intuitive geometry is bad. I try to pitch diagonally across the angle of a slope with head highest, but in reality I always slide sideways.
  20. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    If there's a slope, we always try to kèp it running head to foot. A slope that runs sideways can leave you braced against it and makes for a tiring sleep.
    Placing your extended trekking poles on the ground and viewing from multiple angles can help with gauging slope.
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  21. Nevis

    Nevis Section Hiker

  22. Clare

    Clare Thru Hiker

    Don’t I know it! Gripping on with prehistoric toes. I’ll try pole surveying.
  23. Nevis

    Nevis Section Hiker

    Time before last i stuffed a load of dried grass under the tent floor to try and level it out. I’ve sttached some shock cord to the foam underlay to go around that and the mat so hopefully tomorrow night on the hill should result in success
  24. tom

    tom Thru Hiker

    I usually lie down on my selected pitch (on poncho or polycro if wet) and then move about until its as level as possible. Mark the exact spot with trekking poles left and right (like the shape of a mat) to position the shelter. Much more effective than just looking, especially with shelter shapes like the zpacks hexamid. As others have said, head to toe slopes are easiest to manage overnight.
    @Clare - my la palma mats are cut to shape and attach with small glue-on velco tabs to sleepmat with silver side up. The soft sticky side of the mat holds well on all shelter floors materials.
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  25. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Oh, yes, definitely lie down to check the slope before putting up the tent.
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