Looking for ideas for a winter stove

Discussion in 'Kitchen' started by Phil-s, Dec 9, 2019.

  1. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    My word, your going to be a cheap date next time. :laugh:
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  2. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    For you. I'm the one who brings the single malt and mouthwash liqueur!
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  3. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    The best thing about multifuel stoves is the sheer number of people selling second-hand ones for a pittance after using them once on a weekend trip. Says the guy who recently picked up a Primus Gravity II MF for crumbs. :whistling:

    BTW, I had a llok at the Alpkit site and the Koro looks like it has been discontinued.
  4. Bopdude

    Bopdude Section Hiker

    So slightly off topic but is the Heet in the yellow bottle on Amazon the same Heet that Shug uses ?
  5. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    Not looked it up on Amazon but probably...…...it's METHANOL
  6. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Just use normal ethanol/method dude
  7. Bopdude

    Bopdude Section Hiker

  8. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    :thumbsup:
    On balance I think methanol is worth avoiding, unless it's used to dilute nitromethane :nailbiting::dude:
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  9. Bopdude

    Bopdude Section Hiker

    I had to Google that as I thought it rang a bell from my days as a Process Tech for a chemical company that made various materials for the oil industry, still did no good but it rang a bell lol
  10. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    MJ/Kg

    ~50 Propane and Butane
    ~45 Unleaded petrol and Coleman fuel
    ~30 Ethanol and Charcoal
    ~24 Methanol (95%)
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  11. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    Quite so. But mushers driving sleds in Scandinavia or Alaska, use methanol stoves because of simplicity...

    Last edited: Dec 11, 2019
  12. Rog Tallbloke

    Rog Tallbloke Thru Hiker

    Simplicity is good. I do like charcoal for the cheery glow though. And the properly grilled meat.
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  13. Teepee

    Teepee Thru Hiker

    ^That's not a simple stove..

    this is a simple stove;


    Pork; 25 MJ/kg
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  14. RobH

    RobH Trail Blazer

    Primus Omnilite for winter works well for me. 40 plus years using Peaks and other fuel stoves in the arctic and they rarely let me down. I have tried all the gasses with my Alpkit Koro but prefer to leave that for when the temps rise.
  15. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    I just used my petrol firemaple stove to cook lunch. If ml of fuel used is compared with meths, assuming many small pots of water heated and not an hour of snow melting I recon meths would have it. The preheating kills the efficiency.
    The answer is obviously to have at least one of each type of stove I your quiver :)
  16. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    If you only have one of each type, how do you know which is the best of each type? ;)
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  17. Tartanferret

    Tartanferret Thru Hiker

    Before I pull the trigger on a Kovea spider is there anything better?
  18. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    On a remote canister stove is it not better to have a larger burner head?
  19. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    It depends on the pot & what you're 'cooking', I generally only use it to heat water in the 1L Evernew Pasta Pot (~11cm diameter) so the small burner head is the most efficient design, it works equally well with the Alpkit 650 mug. If you wish to cook 'real' food in a larger pan a large burner head may be more appropriate.
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  20. el manana

    el manana Thru Hiker

    Fire Maple Blade 2?... I think it's the same as the Alpkit Koro
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  21. Tartanferret

    Tartanferret Thru Hiker

    Assuming the hose does not leak like the koro, then I think i’ll get one of those instead. Cheers
  22. Warrenbond

    Warrenbond Trail Blazer

    Primus ETA spider stove is very good you can also buy the multifuel kit to use it for white gas petrol etc
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  23. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    FWIW, the Primus Express Spider uses the same multifuel parts as the Primus Gravity II and III (not the Gavity I) and if you're lucky you can pick up a used Gravity MF stove for less money than a multifuel kit.

    I like how the jets are easily changed in these stoves without having to remove the burner. :thumbsup:
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2019
  24. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    The one thing I dislike about all the Primus remote stove designs is the canister valve; sticking out the way it does makes it awkward for turning the canister upside down unless you use a stand or improvise something with boots/ pegs etc. The Kovea Spider or Alpkit Koro design is far more practical.
    Last edited: Dec 23, 2019
  25. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    Quite agree, the control is better suited to use with a fuel bottle than a canister.

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