Futurelight from North Face.

WilliamC

Thru Hiker
As you say, if it wworks.
That leads us to one big question I haven’t gotten a clear answer on yet: How waterproof is the fabric?
According to gearjunkie.com:
"That leads us to one big question I haven’t gotten a clear answer on yet: How waterproof is the fabric?
TNF does call the fabric waterproof, which insinuates it should stand up to a decent water column test. We will follow this story closely and update this article with water column test results as they become available."
 

Shewie

Chief Slackpacker
Staff member
However good they claim it to be you can guarantee it will have failed within twelve months or so.
 

dovidola

Thru Hiker
High on hype. Low on data.

Introducing......Futurelight - taddaaah!!!

Reading between the lines, it seems this latest miracle fabric works by using little holes which are small enough to prevent liquid water getting in but large enough to allow vapour to escape. Nothing new there...

So what's being brought to the party? Why, "Nanospinning" of course! Add it to your lexicon immediately, and make space for the inevitable TLA(s) to accompany it (plus, obviously, more bits of card added to the bunch strung to the zipper pull). Sounds like it's supposed to feel and behave like 'ordinary' fabric, and that the manufacturer can adjust the size of the holes, hence the novelty, but we're told little about its other properties (e.g. insulation, weight, durability, water retention etc). We are advised, however, that its "possibilities could be endless"! Yes, of course they could.

In the (unlikely) event of extended field testing by real people use proving it to be the game-changer it claims to be, I'll be happy to wait until its use becomes widespread, prices have steadied, and someone in AliExpressLand has worked out how to copy it.

Until that happy day, I'll just carry on using my "loud, crunchy, muggy and unpackable" waterproof garments - at least, that's how they're described by a certain Scott Mellin, Global General Manager at Mountain Sports at The North Face, (he must have a big one - business card, that is), who hasn't even seen them!
 

Arne L.

Thru Hiker
If it has a DWR I can’t see how it’s all that much different from current technologies.
 

Taz38

Thru Hiker
@dovidola My thoughts exactly :roflmao:

What a load of :poop:

Funnily enough, I actually bought some tecwash and today am washing some of my garments, those that were totally amazeballs when they first came on the market and cost a fortune...only to end up on ebay for me to snap up at a much better price.
 

Sack the Juggler

Backpacker
Oohhh a shiny new thing... actually, if this does work it will be a game changer, and if they have patented it correctly goretex will be out of business (assuming that TNF does not price its own products out of the market).
 

Micksjoiner

Ultralighter
Spoke to one of the shop managers of ellis brigham yesterday and he's heading to
aviemore at the end of the month for the release of the futurelight range.
 

Sack the Juggler

Backpacker
If it does work, and they allow other companies to use the technology (and pay for it) in their garments, then Goretex could well be out of business.
 

Shewie

Chief Slackpacker
Staff member
TNF athletes are testing prototype Futurelight single skin shelters and clothing on Everest this season, lots of positives around breathability and performance but it’s all cold and dry environments.

I had a look at a few of their jackets this week and they looked really good, and light, still too early for me to invest though. Longevity of waterproofness is the main concern for most of us so it’ll be interesting to hear some more thoughts after winter.
 

Arne L.

Thru Hiker
Like I've said before, I really don't get why companies are still making such a huge fuss about so-called 'revolutionary' waterproof technologies... when the jacket has a DWR.

Which will, sooner then later, wear out. Resulting in a possible miserable experience.

I've used so-called permanent beading jackets for a while now and can't even imagine going back to DWR-based waterproof jackets.

It's just a whole lot more simple.
 
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