Cumulus Taiga query

Discussion in 'Sleeping Bags & Quilts' started by Lamont-Cranston, Aug 9, 2019.

  1. qy_

    qy_ Summit Camper

    I am 186cm/93kg and have the normal length. It works well for me.
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  2. Toby

    Toby Backpacker

    Got these pics from a guy over at r/ultralight of a standard length and width taiga quilt. He was perfectly happy using it for groundsleeping in this configuration, but to me it looks quite narrow? Would be interesting to se similar measurements made on a "standard" width quilt from another brand to get an idea of the differences in width!

    https://imgur.com/gallery/I1PmfC5
  3. GroenHike

    GroenHike Hiker

    I´ve got a question.

    My first idea was to get the quilt 450 with 900FP cuin and the Toray fabric, it would have a temp. limit comfort rating of around -9c. Now the Taiga seems good to me aswell. Yet, I would like to get a 3-season quilt, and I´m a cold sleeper, and in Scandinavia it could get -5c in the summer, which is which I´m going for -9c limit comfort rating. But if I take the Taiga instead, would this be way to warm for 3-season, to have 450G of 900cuin FP down? I like the idea of the closed foodbox, yet I´m unsure if this makes the quilt too warm for 3-season use. What do you guys think?
  4. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

    personally i like a closed footbox for the colder months its why i have a quilt 200 for summer airing, i had to air my feet a few times in the taiga 360 and temps only got around freezing (im a warm ish sleeper).
  5. Dave V

    Dave V Moderator Staff Member

    I have a Taiga 360 on trial atm.

    Build is extremely high as I'd expect from Cumulus, fill seems very even and lofts very well. The foot box feels a little narrower to me compared to my Quilt 350 (closed foot box version).

    Once I have used it more, I'll post some pics, measurements, comparisons etc.
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  6. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Look forward to it. A pic of the back and the system of 'lacing' (?) would be appreciated please Dave. Still can't get my head around how this would attach as well as the straps do to a mat.
  7. Dave V

    Dave V Moderator Staff Member

    I don't attach quilts to my pad but will get some pics taken and posted up of the back. Its the same as on my quilt 350, small loops with shock cord and a cord lock. I will try and get the pictures tomorrow for you.
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  8. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Thanks kindly Dave.
  9. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

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    as Dave said same as the quilts, think i only used 2 short bungees out of the 4. also note in the pic how it tapers off quicker than the standard quilt with a slightly narrower foot box.
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2019
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  10. Dave V

    Dave V Moderator Staff Member

    Some comparison pics vs my Quilt 350 regular. The pad is a Xlite regular and the Taiga I have here is the 360 Long

    Both quilts lined up with the bottom of the pad

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    350 on top of the Taiga. Not totally lined up but positioned how I would sleep in the 350 if using the elite

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    There is space inside the Taiga to hunker right down and pull the quilt over my head. I am 6ft tall and can pull it right over and close the buckle / cinch the top of the quilt closed.

    Both the 350 and the Taiga have four sets of loops to run shock cord through

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    They can be run around the bottom of a pad loosely and then tighten up if you want to. I have the cord in place on my 350 but don't attach the quilt to my pad. If the temp drops, I simply cinch the quilt all around me like a bag and have plenty of room to move around.


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    To avoid getting tangled up with the cord. Its probably best to have both length over the pad.?.


    The top of the quilt had a flat central release buckle, a cinch cord and two cord locks, one either side so that the quilt can be close around your neck. There is an internal neck baffle pictured below.

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    Neck Baffle, runs full width of the quilt.

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    Quilt cinched up so the sides of the opening meet

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    I said above that the footbox feels tighter on the Taiga. I stand by that even though from the pictures it looks wider/roomier. Internally, for me the 350 feels roomier. This may be down to the Taiga having a slightly longer closed foot box, the Taiga has an angled end though which feels very comfy when laying on your back with feet pointing upwards.
  11. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Nice! Thanks.
  12. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    WOW. Thanks for the comprehensive series of photos and comments Dave.
    Much appreciated. Looks like an excellent bit of kit. Have you never lashed it to the mat just to give it a burl and see if it holds over a night?
  13. Dave V

    Dave V Moderator Staff Member

    A while back I tried and EE Rev quilt with the pad straps and really didn't like it. I felt restricted, I tried my 350 attached to the pad once and felt the same.

    I prefer having the movement and flexibility of not being attached tbh
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  14. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    Ta boyo. Good to know. Always interested how people do it without strapping it down. Wish I could. I had the EE Rev (2016 model) and sold it. Draughts, not enough down. My new wee Cum 150 (190) is a winner. No draught, straps work a treat. Better all up product than the EE. Would look to the 10d Toray next time for certain.
  15. Lempo

    Lempo Ultralighter

    I have EE Convert -6c XL/XW and I don't use straps, as zipped up there's enough space to move around. I take a weight penalty, it's 900g, but it's bloody versatile and nice.
  16. Toby

    Toby Backpacker

    Interesting, I can totally see that being a problem! Do you have the taiga in standard width, and if, is it really wide enough for ground sleeping without straps?
  17. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

    its the standard width 140cm but long in length, ive used it for 4 nights with only 2 short bungees attached around my body in a bivi bag with no issues.
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  18. GroenHike

    GroenHike Hiker

    So would you suggest adding width to the Taiga, if its used for ground?
  19. Daniel

    Daniel Summit Camper

    depends on your size, im 6ft 75kg slim ish and its ok for me
  20. mathijs

    mathijs Backpacker

    I'm at the point of ordering my Taiga but I'm still brainstorming about the fabric.
    Is the Toray Airtastic upgrade worth it, are there any long term users here that can share some experiences?
    Does the fabric hold up and does it handle moisture well?

    Or should I just go for the normal Pertex Quantum?
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  21. GroenHike

    GroenHike Hiker

    Thanks for the imput. Would you say both back-sleeping and side-sleeping is ok without extra width for you?
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  22. Lamont-Cranston

    Lamont-Cranston Section Hiker

    It'll be lighter if nothing else! But I can't see a problem.
    I like the quantum-we both have it on our Climalite jumper- giddee up, but looking back now, I should have got the Toray on my 150(190) quilt. How much extra are they asking? That could be the killer.

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