Cumulus Quilt 350

Discussion in 'Sleeping Bags & Quilts' started by Dave Vaughan, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. Dave Vaughan

    Dave Vaughan Section Hiker

    I sleep warm and would happily take my 350 out to -8 or so. The few cold camps I've used the quilt, with minimal layers I have ended pushing the quilt down as Ive been over-warm. Thats the great thing about quilts or using a bag as one, move it with ease to where you want it :)
  2. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Staying on top of a pad whilst on unlevel ground can be an issue for me. Its fine with everything in my overbag, but I'm yet to nail a system I'm happy with, with just the quilt and a small pad.
    -8 is going some with a 350 quilt. Mines closer to 400 and I'd definitely need thermal layers to get to -8.
  3. Dave Vaughan

    Dave Vaughan Section Hiker

    I find that if I can keep the pad from moving too much I stay put. I use a section of towel or zlite pad under my torso and it reduces slip allot.

    The coldest I've been down to in the 350 was -3. I was inside my borah bivy with terra pants and a HH merino top on. I put my hypertherm on around 0500-0600 as the sun came up. In my pack I had my down jacket, down boots and hat as well as another base and leggings.
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  4. MyHatGandhi

    MyHatGandhi Backpacker

    Draught chill is what I should have said. I couldn't pitch completely to the ground due to reasons beyond my control, and the winds were about 40+mph, so a bit of chill snuck underneath that the bathtub walls couldn't stop. Defnintly felt colder on that -2 night than the -3 night but it didn't bother me since I was only affected when I turned if the quilt attachements weren't tight enough.
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  5. Jon

    Jon Trekker

    I see the 150 and 450 quilts have been removed from the site entirely now. Hope they have new stock ready to post out as soon as they list the new ones (hopefully tomorrow).
  6. theoctagon

    theoctagon Thru Hiker

  7. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    Heavier advertised weight, I thought they were going to be lighter?
  8. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    so it looks like all the fuss was with a zipped foot box. Cant believe they have stuck with the crap top channel with gaps in.

    weights dont look different?
  9. Dave Vaughan

    Dave Vaughan Section Hiker

    My 350 is 585g I think. Not sure I will order one now. Looks to be same fabrics just the zipper.

    I’m going to use my myog quilt tomorrow and it it’s ok for me I’ll be making one using better fabric and stick with my 350 and synthetic
  10. MyHatGandhi

    MyHatGandhi Backpacker

    And there was me thinking I was going to be jealous, and disappointed that I didn't wait another 6 months before getting my 250 ;)

    Prices up slightly too?
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  11. Jon

    Jon Trekker

    I'm happy that it can be opened up as a flat blanket. However I'm going camping next weekend and it won't get here in time so I'm not in a hurry to buy. Hopefully more photos and a product video will show up in the next couple of days.
  12. Balagan

    Balagan Section Hiker

    One continuous baffle across the width (so 12 instead of 36), draft collar and draft baffle behind the zip, pad straps instead of a shock cord spaghetti junction, (supposedly) same geometry as an Enlightened Equipment quilt, down which is the equivalent of US 900 FP... Once they have more photos, at these prices, I expect these to be EE killers on the European market. Once they have more photos...
  13. Jon

    Jon Trekker

    Is the continuous baffle better? I recall someone mentioning that it potentially means the down can fall off you during the night especially if you sleep on your side?
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  14. MyHatGandhi

    MyHatGandhi Backpacker

    Pad straps must surely be better than the current system which is overly fiddly.
  15. Balagan

    Balagan Section Hiker

    I think one central and two side baffles is indeed better because the down doesn't move but I guess they wanted to simplify production and figured that all the competition makes quilts with continuous baffles so why bother.

    I also believe that the down falling to the sides affects their Comforters more than it should because they were designed that way : the guy who asked them to make it (along with their discontinued synthetic hooded smock) wanted to be able to move the down to the side. I suspect the chambers might be a little oversize because of this...
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  16. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    Are you saying it will have vertical baffles Balagan and they havent got the photos done yet?
  17. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    The earlier had more down in the baffles over you and less in the lower ones. Only reason I'd have continuous baffles would be if they were all connected so you could move more to your feet or where ever is chilly. If they are horizontal I'd prefer sectioned, or better still vertical.
  18. Balagan

    Balagan Section Hiker

    No, sorry for the confusion: these indeed have horizontal baffles. If you must have vertical baffles, they have the Taiga line which is supposed to be for hammocks but is the same size as the old quilts.
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  19. Warrenbond

    Warrenbond Trail Blazer

    So are these an upgrade or not iv been considering getting one but not if there not as good
  20. Balagan

    Balagan Section Hiker

    If you want something with the same cut and separate side baffles, the Taiga range is basically the same as the old quilts but with vertical baffles on the upper top. Checks the same boxes but the temp ratings are confusing because they are given for hammock use with an underquilt.

    Taiga360Green-Daig.jpg
    Taiga360Green-UpSideD.jpg

    As to whether the new quilts are an improvements or not, it depends what you like and dislike about the old range. Personally, I disliked the width (or lack thereof) across the hips and the shock cords so these should be better.

    My comparison with EE was a little confusing but these are pretty much the equivalent of the Katabatic Flex range at roughly 2/3 of the price before import tax which you don't get on Cumulus purchases.
    Last edited: May 19, 2018
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  21. shetland_breeder

    shetland_breeder Trail Blazer

    The 250 is 'not available in this size' still. And there are no length options which means getting a custom quote and paying by bank transfer for another £20 bank charges.

    I don't suppose i'd get one by the end on the month anyway. So for now the Apex quilt will be the way to go.
  22. paul

    paul Thru Hiker

    Yep thats my take. continuous horizontal baffle do bleed down to the edges. Ive never once been in my sewn footbox quilt missing the ability to open it up so for me its just added weight and faff. Ive never used pad straps either so im happy with the old version. Think they could have pushed the shell fabrics lighter too. As always if you want the best, look west
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  23. Balagan

    Balagan Section Hiker

    Surely, that doesn't apply to Made in Coventry... ;)
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  24. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Well, not yet...
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  25. Balagan

    Balagan Section Hiker

    I know. Didn't want to rub it in...
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