Coffee recommendations

Discussion in 'Kitchen' started by Rmr, May 10, 2020.

  1. oreocereus

    oreocereus Section Hiker

    I’ll defer to you. My experience is limited to homes in ex-Yugoslavia and a couple of Turkish friends, where it’s been largely low quality coffee boiled on an electric hob. The western attitude in specialty coffee is a bit snobbish toward Turkish style coffee, and the cliche is definitely dark/“burnt” roasts, but it’s curious you mention lighter roasts being popular in some areas. I’d love to try some meticulously produced Turkish coffee some day. I don’t have the right vessels etc at home to try with local coffee, and maybe the trend toward super light roasts in Anglo specialty coffee culture wouldn’t suit that well.
  2. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Well to quote the great sage Jon Bon Jovi- "I'm a cowboy...."
    So I plonked 15 grams of espresso coffee and about 150 mls water in the cup and brought it to high simmer and then lowered to a soft simmer for about 50 seconds and bingo a coffee drink that is alright. Passable and the grounds sink quick. Not an issue. Now I can alternate tea and coffee out in the scrub if the mood takes me.
    "I'm wanted ....(wanted) .....dead or alive...."
    Thanks Padstowe @Padstowe for the prompts.
    Last edited: May 24, 2020
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  3. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Should start by saying i'm drinking my 1 cup of coffee per day while typing this, and it's Nescafé instant :D:D:D:D
    Being a photocopier engineer for many years, i'm in the "if it's warm and wet, it'll do" category of tea/coffee drinker

    So pretty much the opposite of a coffee expert

    But observing my Greek Mrs, friends and family i've not seen anyone use sand to make coffee at home
    Usually they bring it to a boil using a gas camping stove, most bring it to a boil 3 times

    I have seen a few kafenia that have sand trays for making coffee, but it's not common

    I don't drink Greek coffee, i don't like the taste and if i drink it i'm on the toilet for 10mins, 20mins after drinking it
    Couple of guys at work are 100% coffee snobs
    They've been trying to convert me for years, so bring me various coffees and ways they make it to try
    I've tried their stuff but much to their disgust, i prefer instant :D

    So bear that in mind before putting any value in my opinion on taste :whistling:
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  4. oreocereus

    oreocereus Section Hiker

    Do your Greek friend coffee snobs prepare the Greek way or do they use more westernized methods?

    And yeah, I’ve never actually seen someone use heated sand for their coffee, but supposedly it’s the traditional way, but I suspect too impractical in a modern time. I have heard that a few people have a pan with sand in it for home like this
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    But it seems unlikely it’d be common
  5. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    I suspect that cooking with sand is uncommon at home, certainly nobody we know does it. It would be very uneconomical unless you're making coffee for a lot of people.
    Those pans, however, are common (even we have one). They're called a saç (pronounced satch) in Turkish. They're used inverted for cooking flat bread (saç ekmeği), though that's more a countryside thing, and also gözleme, which many tourists will have come across. Not inverted, they're used like a wok for cooking various dishes, perhaps most famously for saç kavurma, a kind of stir fried meat and vegetables.
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  6. gixer

    gixer Thru Hiker

    Depends

    For coffee they use machines
    For Greek coffee (only 1 of them drinks it) it's bringing it close to boiling 3 times on a gas camping type stove

    I think the gas stove is because it has quicker heat control as very few houses here have gas cookers (active earthquake zone)
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  7. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Most people here you gas and all gas stoves have a special coffee making hob, which is tiny and only good for making coffee or simmering a pan. And annoyingly that hob is always one of the front ones, so if you're frying in too pans that need frequent attention and simmering in another, the simmering pan is always in the way.
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  8. Jim_Parkin

    Jim_Parkin Trail Blazer

    That sent me down a lockdown youtube rabbit hole,

    Thanks :)
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  9. jack4allfriends

    jack4allfriends Summit Camper

    :watching: Probably best coffee channel on yt :)
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  10. Jim_Parkin

    Jim_Parkin Trail Blazer

    It is the only one that I am (now) aware of.

    Which says more about my coffee geekery than the availability of coffee YouTube content.

    I like stove-top mocha coffee pots with something akin to Illy espresso-grind Arabica beans. And that's adequate for me.
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  11. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Section Hiker

    So, two sachets of coffee into a 500ml bottle with ice cold water

    I've always liked strong cold/iced coffee and I saw one of the yanks on YouTube doing this, gave it a try and its really nice, even better with sugar which I don't normally like.

    Burned at the stake?
    Or
    Coffee Genius?
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  12. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

    Love a frappe myself :thumbsup:
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  13. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    Got to have milk powder for me but I love it too. Make the same thing in a plastic 150 gm peanut butter jar. Shake away for 30 seconds. Delicious.
    Three or four months of the year when walking overnight this all I carry.:thumbsup:
    Last edited: May 25, 2020
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  14. Padstowe

    Padstowe Thru Hiker

    I used to be a bit frappe mad, I like it with a bit of condensed milk & sugar.
    Haven't had one in quite a while though since I broke my shaker, which I don't think is a bad thing considering how much of the stuff I used to drink.
    Last edited: May 25, 2020
  15. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    You'd not use a plastic peanut butter jar thing? Mine weighs 15 grams and is app. 5 cms high by 4 cms and shakes up a storm and all the coffee and milk powder for a couple of days are stored inside when you finish drinking from it. Cup as well. Low fat milk powder shakes up best.
    Last edited: May 25, 2020
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  16. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Section Hiker

    Double espresso frappe :thumbsup:
  17. Padstowe

    Padstowe Thru Hiker

    Thought about getting a plastic jar for a while,but frappes don't seem to interest me as much anymore. Other thing, I really like them with condensed milk it adds a little bit of an extra flavour than ordinary or powdered milk. But as yet we don't have the single servings available to buy here, which isn't a bad thing as they are an awful lot of unnecessary waste.
    What I used to use to make frappe's for a while was a straw cut down the middle twice about 2.5cms making quarters that you fold out, stick your sugar & coffee in the cup with a little bit of water & go at it with the straw with the folded out ends down, like a mad man trying to make fire with a stick, & the same for mixing up powdered milk when needed. I have a tiny whisk that I got in a kitchen set some years back that I use for powdered milk & deserts now.
  18. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    That sounds nice. I find that if I fill my jar thing to where you see my index finger -that's 100mls and add one teaspoon of the best 'espresso' instant and half a teaspoon of low fat milk powder and the full 30 second shake like hell, I get a good drink. Quick and easy. Wouldn't mind trying some Cond. milk in there though. 20200526_185110.jpg
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  19. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Section Hiker

    Why the jar? Can you not just do it in your water bottle?

    I just make/drink my coffee, drink powder mixes and low fat water from the same bottle.
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  20. JKM

    JKM Thru Hiker

    I am yet to find and decent light PB jar in the UK that doesn't have a rubbish paper seal, leaks when filled with water or distorts hugely from hot water.

    If anyone has any hints?

    Ideally I would use something like this Addis one but they are a bit heavier than I would like.
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    You need this.
    Lasts ages in the cupboard and is easily decanted into a smaller lighter squeezy pouch (I use a 300ml govino spirits flask)

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  21. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    That's what we use. You can buy single sachets of frappe powder in Turkey (unfortunately, you can't get them without sugar), and we mix it with water in a 3000ml plastic bottle.
  22. Cranston

    Cranston Thru Hiker

    I carry 2 one litre bottles and water is often scarce. I would have to carry another smaller bottle if I was to do what you suggest-which would have a narrow neck and be useless for any other task.The little wide mouth jar fills easily and also doubles as the storage container and triples as the cup. It's also water tight. The lid is the key to the frappe. It all in the skakin' man.:thumbsup: I think Shakin' Stevens said that.
    Last edited: May 26, 2020
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  23. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Section Hiker

    Aye, fair one, we have the same problem with water in Scotland :D.



    I carry a tiny little wide mouth bottle for mixing nido
    Last edited: May 26, 2020
  24. Enzo

    Enzo Thru Hiker

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    60g with aluminised foam cosy frappe shaker. Can't find them anymore. This one came from Greece.
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  25. Padstowe

    Padstowe Thru Hiker

    Nice I used this yoke for years before I broke the snap on lid 20200526_125535.jpg
    Even before the lid went I busted the bottom but fixed it with silicone & duct tape. 20200526_125538.jpg
    Could've probably fixed the lid to some degree though it was a bad break, but I was getting back into hot drinks so never did.

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