Bit of a strange question re Scarp 1 & 2

Discussion in 'Shelters & Accessories' started by Charlie83, Nov 8, 2018 at 11:11 AM.

  1. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Trekker

    Sorry for the random nature of the question, ive searched online but answers are a bit conflicting/random

    Anyway I'm wondering if anyone has the packed length dimensions of the Scarp1 & 2, I think they must be pretty similar tbh as I can't remember having any dramas packing the 2.

    I have both, but I'm away from home with work at the moment and cant access mine to measure.

    I currently manage to pack either of them standing up, inside a montane grand tour 55. I have a packing regime/system :) that I like and would like to keep, but Im away to order a new bergan (possibly slightly smaller if possible) and just want to be sure I can keep putting the Scarps inside.

    As an aside, I've never owned a roll top bag, would a roll top make any difference to my packing regime, with the tents standing upright?
  2. Nevis

    Nevis Section Hiker

    Have them both myself but i'm in the office all day! Have you not thought about packing them on the outside either in a front mesh pocket or side pockets of a new pack? it's where i keep mine depending on which tent and which pack. If i packed either inside a pack i'd never have any room for anything else!!!
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  3. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    It should fit in any full length pack compartment? Both have packed length of 18"(45cm). Unless you are using short back length packs which might be a squeeze. But the fact it fit in your montane suggests not.

    I always pack mine upright inside my pack same as @Charlie83 . The Stratospire, Moment and Notch too. Outside the main liner. In it's sil bag, just slides in after putting sleeping gear in first. Then pack the rest. if you don't pack things too solidly it is easy to just pull out shelter first when you stop.
    I never want a tent outside my pack. Especially if any scrambling involved.
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  4. benp1

    benp1 Backpacker

    My Scarp 1 fits inside my Golite Jam exactly as you describe. Wouldn't want to put anything on the outside unless it's a helmet, ice axe, water bottle or walking pole (or maybe a rope if I needed one)
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  5. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Trekker

    Thank folks, really appreciated

    Aye, I rarely have anything on the outside either, other than wet pants or maybe a jacket if it's an on/off/on rain day. I like the Scarps dead centre in the pack and everything seems to fit round it (on a good day). Think a tent on the side would throw the balance away tae pot for me as i tend not to strip them down unless they're soaked.

    Doing the CWT in April and fancied a new lighter bergan, (even though I've loved the montane GT over the last 5 years). Also I'm really fond of the 2 Scarps and have no intention of swapping them for a smaller pack sized tent. Fancy something built on the prospector chassis and kinda hoped to get away with a 50 rather than a 60, doesn't help that I can't find any info on how montane divied up their capacity in the grand tour.

    If the Scarps fit, then I'll make sure everything else does to:biggrin:
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  6. Mole

    Mole Thru Hiker

    We all have a system:thumbsup:

    I always pack my poled tents to the left corner close to my back. I don't feel the tent density is really much different from the bulk of my gear/food, and I always carry a water bottle on outside right pocket. Never noticed any unbalancedness, and mostly use a lightish 45l pack the last 3 years or so (Gossamer Gear Gorilla).
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  7. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    When in April are you on the CWT? Might bump into you :D
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  8. Padstowe

    Padstowe Section Hiker

    Not at home now so can't measure the back length but I used to pack a scarp 1 (can't speak for the 2) with gear for a few days in a podsac lux 35l, like wise as Mole, left hand side with water in the right outside pocket & with that pack fuel shoved down the right hand side inside the pack.
    (The main pole I would pack separate, but it did fit easily the back length aswell)
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  9. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Trekker

    Planning on starting on the 12th from the fort, planned on 16 days, but I won't be in a rush and if it takes longer that wont be a drama.

    I'm up there with work next month, so there might be a cashe or two on route:greedy:
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  10. Franco Darioli

    Franco Darioli Trail Blazer

    18" (45 cm ) is the length of the struts, so that is about the length of the stored Scarps too.
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  11. bumbly

    bumbly Section Hiker

    Just a heads up on pole packing. If you have some form of wand pocket or similar on the outside of a pack it is often a great option as the fabric only bits in a stuffsac are far more flexible packing wise after having removed poles (and pegs if you keep them together). Also there are no hard corners to knacker drybags.

    My one peeve with the Scarp is that the pole section length means it will only go horizontal inside a really wide pack otherwise.
  12. Franco Darioli

    Franco Darioli Trail Blazer

    The pole sections used to be 51 cm long, they are now 45 cm.
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  13. craige

    craige Thru Hiker

    Ah, I won't see you then, starting the 23rd. I did Glenfinnan to Ullapool over 6 days in May and that section at least is fantastic. Quite a few on here have done it too.

    Haha, not a bad idea, mail drops are expensive.
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  14. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Trekker

    Really looking forward to it, done quite a few bits of it as well, but just going to go out and attempt the whole thing in a oner.

    I did 2 mail drops on my first TGO, wasn't cheap, but it did work perfectly, the places I sent stuff to were fantastic.

    Also did a wee cashe (wine and chocolate) for the final dash to stonehaven, had it hidden & marked up really well, (I thought:sick:) spent 20 mins digging all around the wrong tree and cursing some unknown wino tea leaf, before realising the right tree was a couple of meters away:banghead:
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  15. Charlie83

    Charlie83 Trekker

    Ive had mine since 2014 & 2015, assuming they are the longer versions then

    Oops, that was meant to be a quote on Franco's post

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