Alcohol Stove Options

Discussion in 'Kitchen' started by stonemonkey, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Balagan

    Balagan Thru Hiker

    Yes, they are both 95mm in diameter with the 650 a little higher. There is a lighter version but the dimensions are the same. The 650 light is lighter than the 550 so there is really nothing to be gained if that's the one you have. Even if you have the slightly heavier 650, I'd just use that.
    Last edited: Feb 1, 2020
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  2. stonemonkey

    stonemonkey Ultralighter

    im struggling to choose the correct size pot stand from speedster.... anybody here use one of his?
  3. stonemonkey

    stonemonkey Ultralighter

    which one have you got bud?
  4. stonemonkey

    stonemonkey Ultralighter

  5. Nigelp

    Nigelp Ultralighter

    280g
  6. Nigelp

    Nigelp Ultralighter

    I’ve not used it yet. Only to test and cook some noodles and heat water. Worked fine for that. Off to Dartmoor next weekend so will report back then.
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  7. Nigelp

    Nigelp Ultralighter

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    I also got a Trangia kettle today. It’s the 1.4 litre one. With a the stand, meths stove, MSR handle and the pot it comes in at 468 grams.
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2020
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  8. dovidola

    dovidola Thru Hiker

    see #32
  9. stonemonkey

    stonemonkey Ultralighter

    ??
  10. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Posts in a thread are numbered (bottom right).
    Last edited: Feb 2, 2020
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  11. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    You might need to view in landscape if using a phone as portrait drops the post number
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  12. stonemonkey

    stonemonkey Ultralighter

    Cheers... that worked!
  13. stonemonkey

    stonemonkey Ultralighter

    Ok so I put an order in at speedster and received my order. Decided mainly by the recommendations from you guys.

    I got a pot stand
    30ml burner
    50ml burner
    50ml Simmer ring
    Fuel bottle
    Fire steel thingy

    And a couple of little bits like silicone hose and velcro.

    Not tried these out in anger yet but these burners are so easy to light and you can as you know just..... blow them out!

    Can't wait to use them for their intended use:) 20200205_211626.jpg
  14. Nevis

    Nevis Section Hiker

    Started off with Speedster stoves but moved on to Stormin after the screw lid on the Speedster became cross threaded and ending up having to break it off with a small rock!! Built up an appetite though after nearly an hour of trying to get the lid off in the cold!!! :)
  15. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

    I find the threads last much longer if you remove the lid when not in use at home.

    Not sure if it’s the alcohol reacting with the ally?
  16. Nevis

    Nevis Section Hiker

    I even tried rubbing the threads with a pencil to see if that would help in the future with the spare i had and that didn't seem much help and didn't really trust it after that!! :(
  17. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    Apparently, ethanol can corrode aluminium and methanol corrodes it aggressively.
    I leave the burner open for a day after a trip to allow the meths to evaporate then store it with the lid loosely closed. I haven't had a lid stick yet.
  18. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    Anyone know how much fuel the 30ml one takes? Or to put it another way will it take enough to boil enough water to re-hydrate a typical meal and make a cup of tea?
  19. dovidola

    dovidola Thru Hiker

    I use my Speedster a lot, at least weekly, because I enjoyed it so much when first used it for hiking that it now comes with me wherever I'm outdoors to make a brew-up on the go. There's no way this is (or is intended to be) a high-end luxury item, hence my buying a bagful of them so that I can start a new one each year. The threads are going to wear, the interior gauze stuff will eventually break down, the lid's liner will eventually detach and deform. Treat it with respect and it will be fine for a good while.

    I only had a 'can't get it off' problem with the threads once, and that was because I'd threaded it badly when doing it up, I think because it was still too warm from use. Still came off after a little coaxing. I wouldn't try to leave fuel inside it other than temporarily.

    The important thing is, as I see it, it's not going to suddenly malfunction to the extent that it can't be used. This cannot be said of a gas stove or petrol stove, where if valves, joints, etc fail you may well not be able to effect a repair on the hill.

    If you're that worried, you can always take a spare - perfectly viable at 12g a throw!
    Last edited: Feb 7, 2020
  20. dovidola

    dovidola Thru Hiker

    Yes, just the right amount - a big cuppa plus a typical meal rehydrate plus short simmer.

    I really can't see the 50ml being needed for a single user, unless you're contemplating snow melting or longer cooking, neither of which I'd want to do on meths.
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  21. PhilHo

    PhilHo Thru Hiker

    Some answers on this forum are really good, this one was perfect! :thumbsup:
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  22. dovidola

    dovidola Thru Hiker

    Charmed!
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  23. Whiteburn

    Whiteburn Thru Hiker

    Ethanol (liquid or gaseous form) WILL corrode both Aluminium & Aluminium Oxide (the dull surface coating that inhibits the base metal corroding), hence some of the problems with small 2/ 4 stroke engines since they've started adding ethanol to petrol.
    Having a thin silicone gasket (I cut them from a Poundland silicone bake dish) in the lid rather than waxed cardboard helps a lot (better seal) so does a smear of Copper Slip grease. I'll also burn out the stove completely on the last meal of the trip to reduce the corrosion potential in storage.
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  24. Calvin

    Calvin Summit Camper

    I've just got a 30ml Speedster to go with my stormin cone. Just seen the heights are a bit different but if I use the lid as a stand for the burner its about right.
    Anyone know if this will damage the lid seal?
    Is the height difference even an issue?
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  25. WilliamC

    WilliamC Thru Hiker

    If it's still the same white stuff he was using a few years ago, it will damage the seal. You could replace it with silcon, if you have a source.
    How big is the difference? In tests, I found there is quite a bit of tolerance without harming efficiency much. I found there was more of an effect on boil time (less distance from burner to pot was slower).
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