A definition of thru-hiking...?

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  1. Fair Weather Camper

    Fair Weather Camper Thru Hiker

    You're too modest @Clare :cool:

    If you get any more of either - then we'll all have to give up hiking due to harbouring such feelings of inadequacy. :frown:

    Gosh yes - too right - as comfortable as possible in the greatest range of conditions - very much so - hence luxe underwear is a total necessity :geek: :inlove: :angelic:
  2. Clare

    Clare Section Hiker

    Puhleeze!!!
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  3. PhilHo

    PhilHo Ultralighter

    If you damage something or injure yourself it stores up the ability to be laughed at when you get home.

    There is something positive about trying to do better which is why Parkrun does so well. However at my local Parkrun one vocal person criticised the term "Tail Walker" rather than "Tail Runner" for the volunteer who walks at the back and makes sure everyone gets round. And went on to say that people who walk around should run, after all it is a Parkrun. The implication being that they aren't trying. Having volunteered to be tail walker on a number of occasions and thereby chatted to a fair few of the walkers I can testify that after their open heart surgery or hip replacement those people are trying as hard as they possibly can. To see their delight at having beaten their previous best time not only shows how much they are trying but also the positive mental reinforcement that achieving or exceeding a goal gives you.

    @Taz38 Doing Parkrun is a really good way to motivate yourself to improve your fitness. If a fat 60 year old with one knee cap and arthritic toes can do it anyone can! :)
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  4. cathyjc

    cathyjc Thru Hiker

    I loathe running.
    It's not kind to leg joints/tendons etc. especially as you get older.
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  5. Fair Weather Camper

    Fair Weather Camper Thru Hiker

    Yes??

    What was it you needed?

    Tops or bottoms?? :)
  6. Fair Weather Camper

    Fair Weather Camper Thru Hiker

    Not my fave neither .

    See a lot of knee injuries with over- enthusiastic later in life starters...

    Not saying it can't be done well.
    But, done badly it can cause trouble.

    But I guess anything that gets folks moving, is in some ways better than nowt..
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  7. PhilHo

    PhilHo Ultralighter

    I said "Doing Parkrun", you can walk it and the national organisers encourage it. The point is you go along to a park at 9am on Saturday do a bit of exercise for less than and hour. Next week you go again and try to do it a bit faster, thereby improving your fitness.

    @Fair Weather Camper are you an orthopaedic surgeon or physio therapist? The reason I ask is I recon this stuff about knee injuries isn't backed up by the data. Later life folks get knee problems anyway for all sorts of reasons.
  8. Fair Weather Camper

    Fair Weather Camper Thru Hiker

    Yup I get that - it sounds like a good gentle enough way to start - cameraderie, not over competitive - everyone out to have some fun.... My farm work assistant has just done her fiftieth park run - and is really happy with how its keeping her blood sugar levels under control too.

    I'm an Iyengar Yoga teacher of some 20 plus years standing - strong well aligned legs is a lot of what we work on - provides a good foundation for optimum functioning of the pelvis, spine and so forth - a lot of folks present with knee injuries - or problems from football - skiing - running - accidents - general wear and tear - and sometimes just from not understanding how best to strengthen, and keep healthy, the muscles and connective tissue around the knee joint - to optimise function
    Stiffness in the hips can translate to unnatural and harmful action in the knee - eg the knee is forced into a more rotational action instead of its proper hinge movement, because the hip joint has lost its ability to express its full range - the knee which is much weaker relatively takes the strain.

    Plus theres problems caused by poor tracking of the knee from adapted / adopted walking styles, and bad shoes ..
    And cartilage trouble that can occur too ...

    Sorry you did ask :angelic:
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  9. PhilHo

    PhilHo Ultralighter

    I wasn't arguing for running at Parkrun. Shambling along at a pace that gets your heart rate up a bit will do perfectly.

    But I wonder if you're seeing the people with problems not the masses with none. I'm not convinced that running is what causes the problems you describe. All of the data I've seen suggests that bone density and soft tissue structure and strength are improved with running (and walking/hiking). If someone has a predisposition to osteoarthritis I guess that running will make it apparent and that'll hurt. I know more farmers with dodgy hips from sitting in tractors than I know runners with knee problems and I know an awful lot of both.
  10. Fair Weather Camper

    Fair Weather Camper Thru Hiker

    Well of course I'm only seeing the problems I see.
    And as confirmed earlier data is not the plural of anecdote.

    This is why i tend to limit my tractor driving hours..
    Quite aside from environmental impacts, and deleterious effects on soil structure.

    I value my hips too much :rolleyes:

    Edit, and I started my initial entry into this discussion by stating that I thought running was OK if approached sensibly... Just not gone at, like a bull at a gate.


    Extra edit... Nor was I suggesting that everone I see has bad knees..

    Many, are generally in overall fine fettle.

    Get a lot of bad backs turning up, wot need sorting though :(.
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  11. Shewie

    Shewie Administrator Staff Member

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