Pa'lante Packs

Mole

Thru Hiker
I can see the attraction of the minimal bag.

I really can't see the clothing levels listed as being appropriate long term for UK hills though. Except maybe on the half dozen true summer days we get!
Most of the US is continental and 10-20degrees of latitude further south than us.
Also, let's face it, most on here ( some exceptions I know) are middle aged or approaching it, and will most likely need more insulation sleeping and static than these superfit 20something hikers.

Over the last 6 weeks backpacking trips; from the Pyrenees to Dartmoor to NW Highlands, my pack contents have varied a fair amount due to what conditions I might expect. I find I often to take a little too much of stuff in general

On the Pyrenees trip especially, we were mulling on how to reduce the clothing/gear we take, and what was omitted. Apart from a baselayer set, trek shirt and sleep socks, I ended up walking in everything else on the last bad weather day - Inc fleece and Rab xenon. My liner gloves were inadequate too.

On the Scottish trip, due to conditions, I wouldn't have been able to dry anything other the thin nylon gear (e.g. trousers), so needed bed baselayers and spare undies too. It's just too uncomfortable and smelly to hang out in your 4 days old clothes when there's 12hours of darkness.

I did use a CCF mat for 4 days ( my klymit mat failed, but next day I was able to rob a CCF mat from the piles in a nearby bothy). It was ok. I'm going to try it again for 3 season use. Light, but bulky.
 

theoctagon

Thru Hiker
I've been thinking about adding some netting to the one I made but probably fully enclosed like the hexamid tents...

How much does your original hexamid weigh @murpharoo ?
 
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Enzo

Thru Hiker
Not sure how zpacks would feel if they started selling those....
In John z's video he shows two prototype shelters, this one and an A frame with bug netting. I know he only carries one pole so guess his preference would be this design. A Hexhamid copy is top of my list of things I'd like to make but know I'd never use :o o:
 

Dave5791

Trail Blazer
As an owner of a Hexamid, I now seriously ask myself how practical they are for the British climate. Like everything else in life they have good points and bad points and depending on the conditions they are used in sometimes the good outweigh the bad.

Can Neemor's Pa'lante loan really be all that useful in areas other than where there is minimal precipitation? Even though the sides are more or less pinned to the ground (affecting airflow) the whole of the front is basically open to the elements and he still complained of condensation, which reading between the lines, must've been pretty bad.

Don't get me wrong, the Hexamid is a good tarp/tarptent with an efficient design but other than its weight, portability/packability and lack of sag, sometimes I struggle to see its other 'strengths'.

Anyone got similar thoughts or experiences?
 

Shewie

Chief Slackpacker
Staff member
I ask myself the same question with most kit out of the US, I'm reluctant to splash out on kit that would only be practical two or three days a year over here. There are some gems but others I wouldn't entertain, this is probably one of them.
 

fluffkitten

Moderator
Staff member
He was using that thing on the Long Trail which has a habit of being really wet. Still not really what I'd want to use here.
 

cathyjc

Thru Hiker
I ask myself the same question with most kit out of the US, I'm reluctant to splash out on kit that would only be practical two or three days a year over here. There are some gems but others I wouldn't entertain, this is probably one of them.

Pretty much my sentiments too :thumbsup:
 
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