Meeting energy requirements - vegan diet
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dovidola
Thru Hiker
Never heard of Biscoff Spread, but, reading the recommendations above, I had to see what it was that I've been missing. The chief ingredients are listed as flour, vegetable oils and sugars (with a chocolate edition available for non-vegans). A kind of sweet pastry in gloopy form? A bit like unbaked cake mix perhaps? Maybe not for me after all...
tom
Thru Hiker
Has anyone mentioned peanutbutter? To stick bisquits together... You can easily make your own - an old fashined kitchen handmill for making mince meat is perfect for peanutbutter - just put the peanuts (or roast first to your taste) through and bingo - no additatives needed. Tastes much better than the shop stuff too.
(I used to grow them back in me farming days
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(I used to grow them back in me farming days
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Snowonher
Trail Blazer
One of my staples for hiking on a plant based diet is Firepot dehydrated meals. Best meals I've tasted (dal and rice with spinach etc), and they come in portion sizes of 500kcal to 860kcal! One for lunch and dinner and you're almost there.
https://www.firepotfood.com/
Pip and Nut do 30g sachets of almond or peanut butter mixed with coconut oil. 180kcal. Crazy nice.
https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/s...nut-almond-squeeze-pack-60006831?skuid=006831
Someone else mentioned Huel. per 100g it's about 400kcal but you get a great split of your macros with all the vits and mins you didn't know you needed. Just add water!
https://eu.huel.com/
As for nuts by themselves, am I right in thinking pine nuts are the most nutritously dense? 100g for 600kcal. Don't know if I could eat them by the handful though.
Just as an aside, Rich Roll is an ultra-indurance athlete and has an awesome weekly videod podcast talking to the world's top cardiologists, health specialists and top athletes all about plant based stuff. In my view, science has a lot to answer for because not only do we need to read studies, we also need to be able to evaluate them ourselves, something the scientific comunity is almost failing to do. Not to mention the power lying with industry and not the actual science.
https://www.youtube.com/user/richroll66/videos
https://www.firepotfood.com/
Pip and Nut do 30g sachets of almond or peanut butter mixed with coconut oil. 180kcal. Crazy nice.
https://www.hollandandbarrett.com/s...nut-almond-squeeze-pack-60006831?skuid=006831
Someone else mentioned Huel. per 100g it's about 400kcal but you get a great split of your macros with all the vits and mins you didn't know you needed. Just add water!
https://eu.huel.com/
As for nuts by themselves, am I right in thinking pine nuts are the most nutritously dense? 100g for 600kcal. Don't know if I could eat them by the handful though.
Just as an aside, Rich Roll is an ultra-indurance athlete and has an awesome weekly videod podcast talking to the world's top cardiologists, health specialists and top athletes all about plant based stuff. In my view, science has a lot to answer for because not only do we need to read studies, we also need to be able to evaluate them ourselves, something the scientific comunity is almost failing to do. Not to mention the power lying with industry and not the actual science.
https://www.youtube.com/user/richroll66/videos
lentenrose
Ultralighter
all 100 gms nuts are near 600 kcals but pine nuts are 670-----i didn t like them but carried 100 gms and a 200 gm block of creamed coconut which is 1400 kcal------so 2000+ kcals------emergency rations which i never ate as i wasn t very keen--- until i took some kind of continental sausage that i hated the taste of and couldn t eat-----to make up the shortfall in energy i shaved the creamed coconut into my coffee and hot chocolate----it worked-----have still never ate the pine nuts-----the other thing i never go without is olive oil eat/drink about 50 mls per day=400 kcals-----if i get cold in the night have a large swig----10 mins later i am glowing and back to sleep
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TinTin
Thru Hiker
My daughter stuck a jar of Biscoff Spread into our shopping trolley. It is like liquidised biscuits with extra sugar and, from memory, had the consistency of smooth peanut butter. There's a mix of different glycemic index ideas above, from nuts with a low GI to this stuff that I guess would give you a fairly instant sugar rush. I'd consider different foods for different purposes.
Not vegan but one of the things I do is take pre split bagels and squirt a load of Primula cheese spread on them for a quick lunch. Primula is 58 calories for 25g and a bagel is about 250 calories for a 100g one. You could do something similar with hummus or your own spicy chick pea spread spread liberally on a bagel for 300 calories each. I know others who do the same with flat breads.
dovidola
Thru Hiker
That's good, but I think my regular combo of oatcakes (436cal per 100g) and Lancashire cheese (375cal per 100g) has the bagel/Primula beat on weight, calories, price, and 'healthiness'. It will be drier in the mouth, but that's why it weighs less.
As for the Biscoff, I'm grateful for the cautionary insight - sounds like pure junk!
TinTin
Thru Hiker
I went for a tube of cheese spread because it appealed from a convenience point of view. I don't think I'd eat Lancashire cheese though we have much better in Yorkshire.
Bagels also are OK to eat and keep well, I'm a breadaholic.
.Came across this again and it seems the right place to ask about experiences of resupplying for a vegan or vegetarian diet when on a longer trip.
It is fairly straightforward to buy stuff at home for the first few days but then it can be a struggle to find suitable food to be carried and cooked on a typical backpacker's stove. Especially if you're going through more remote areas with only small shops, perhaps in areas where meat eating is the dominant diet. Then there is the extra fuel required with the obvious weight penalty if you're not simply rehydrating. My last trip was 12 days and I took way too much food in terms of weight but I'm not sure what I would have eaten if I hadn't done so.
How have you resupplied on longer trips?
It is fairly straightforward to buy stuff at home for the first few days but then it can be a struggle to find suitable food to be carried and cooked on a typical backpacker's stove. Especially if you're going through more remote areas with only small shops, perhaps in areas where meat eating is the dominant diet. Then there is the extra fuel required with the obvious weight penalty if you're not simply rehydrating. My last trip was 12 days and I took way too much food in terms of weight but I'm not sure what I would have eaten if I hadn't done so.
How have you resupplied on longer trips?
Clare
Thru Hiker
I fry up a tomato garlic olive oil then add my rice or whatever. I’m not vegan but find that an easy, if boring way to feed myself if I don’t want to carry lots of ingredients which cumulatively weigh a lot, such as a salami.
Tomatoes seem to be amazingly heavy! Maybe I’m tired. I try not to carry more than 2 at a time.
FOX160
Thru Hiker
I am carnivores but I’ve always substituted meat for a can of mixed beans for a chilli con carne (even better with an extra serving of kidney beans) or Adzuki beans with pasta for spaghetti Bolognese. Don’t forget the sauces : )
Enzo
Thru Hiker
If your being weight/cost concious I can wholeheartedly recommend meals based around coconut cream powder. Cheap, dry so it stores indefinitely and very calorie dense at nearly 800cal/100g.
Only needs the addition of a few other dry ingredients (curry powder, veg bullion, dried garlic onion etc dehydrated rice, quick cook pasta etc to make a decent tasty meal.
Only needs the addition of a few other dry ingredients (curry powder, veg bullion, dried garlic onion etc dehydrated rice, quick cook pasta etc to make a decent tasty meal.
Ally
Ultralighter
Ive added this to oats on occasion rather than milk powder, with good results.
Clare
Thru Hiker
But Stuart is talking about re-supply in remote areas I think. The shop where I am now has cous cous, sardine tins and some knorr chicken soup. And this is the last shop for 6 days. I’m not going to pretend to be thrilled. For a vegan that just leaves the cous cous.
Clare
Thru Hiker
Stuart, I know your last trip was Spain. Not sure what your next plan is. When I can I buy uncle Ben’s flavoured packet rice which is widely available Heavier by volume than dried rice but takes less time and fuel to heat it up. I try to improve it with fresh veg if I can find them. Not sure if uncle Ben passes the vegan test, it’s probably full of not so goods but needs must.
Hmmm, thanks for the suggestions but I'm not really seeing attractive solutions I'm afraid.
Next trip? Not sure but I thought this might be useful for others. I might start a more general thread on resupplying as I'm not strictly vegan and can be flexible if needed, this thread might be read by carnies!
Next trip? Not sure but I thought this might be useful for others. I might start a more general thread on resupplying as I'm not strictly vegan and can be flexible if needed, this thread might be read by carnies!