@Lamont-Cranston are those Black
That's why I sold mine... It was heavy but super comfy.... But when it was wet.... It was a pig to dry.Another favourite from past dry and warm winter is Borealis by Rab. Love how it breaths and moves with you but hate once it gets sweat damp as it needs some time to dry....
Yes.@Lamont-Cranston are those Black
BbscWent out on the hill in my new Pat Houdini, Ran alpha jacket and OR t shirt. 7 degrees gusty wind, maybe 25 mph. Overheating after 2 miles, the wind shirt was full of condensed sweat. Stripped down to t shirt and wind shirt with hood up and was perfect for the rest of the walk. I'm not convinced that it is much better than the Rab vital hoodie wind shirt. Clearly as we all know the key to breathsbility is to get your layers right so you manage your temperature and therefore perspiration. Maybe the Houdini will be a bit more rain resistant.
Anyone who's tried the ME Aerofoil? Looks like a really nice fabric!
The thing with the high cfm
Stuff like pertex equilibrium, is that they aren't actually "windproof".
Very good if moving fast and building steam, as more breathable, but not very good at stopping proper wind. You can't have it both ways. Cfm is a measure of air flow. Therefore the higher the cfm of a fabric, the lower its windstopping abilities.
Even mid cfm breathable stuff like paramo use, needs more windproofing if it's seriously windy and cold. You can feel the wind cutting through it.
So, its a balance. Depending on the your needs and the conditions you want to manage.
Pertex equilibrium is very good at managing moisture. From within or without.
With low/no wind, equilibrium, being thicker (and a lot heavier) than a standard pertex, its somewhat warmer to wear. But as an outer layer, once the windchill gets beyond a certain level, it actually becomes colder due to the more open weave(higher cfm).
So, from a UL point of view, if you don't need to take it off, pertex equilibrium is good, but if you need to carry it, it's more g. (not seen any sub 200g garments)
For most backpacking, I prefer a UL windshirt these days.
(I have used various pertexs since the late 80s, A montane pertex equilibrium windshirt and a Rab Vapourise for over 10 years, and Paramo for similar, so have had ample opportunity to compare itrw)
I have. A great summer windshirt that avoids clammy and breathability issues. Quite cheap in Blacks and others so don't pay full price.
Another review here:
https://www.tgomagazine.co.uk/gear-editors-column/chriss-column-mountain-equipment-aerofoil-jacket/
Mens ME Aerofoil all sizes but only in blue is £59.99 at Gaynors (no womens equivalent, sadly)
https://www.gaynors.co.uk/mens-c4/softshell-jackets-c27/mens-aerofoil-jacket-p12651
Sounds good!! Is it almost to breathable for year round use then? Since Scandinavia can be quite windy!
Almost. A good summer shirt but I have a Paramo one for winter.
Wish I'd seen this before I bought my Kor Preshell.. I'm a big fan of exolite material.Mens ME Aerofoil all sizes but only in blue is £59.99 at Gaynors (no womens equivalent, sadly)
https://www.gaynors.co.uk/mens-c4/softshell-jackets-c27/mens-aerofoil-jacket-p12651
Alright, so it's more like the BD Alpine Start then? You don't happen to know the CFM value or have done the famous coffee filter test?Almost. A good summer shirt but I have a Paramo one for winter.
I think I might have gone for one of those at that price.Wish I'd seen this before I bought my Kor Preshell.. I'm a big fan of exolite material.
Went out on the hill in my new Pat Houdini, Ran alpha jacket and OR t shirt. 7 degrees gusty wind, maybe 25 mph. Overheating after 2 miles, the wind shirt was full of condensed sweat. Stripped down to t shirt and wind shirt with hood up and was perfect for the rest of the walk. I'm not convinced that it is much better than the Rab vital hoodie wind shirt. Clearly as we all know the key to breathsbility is to get your layers right so you manage your temperature and therefore perspiration. Maybe the Houdini will be a bit more rain resistant.
I have. A great summer windshirt that avoids clammy and breathability issues. Quite cheap in Blacks and others so don't pay full price.
Another review here:
https://www.tgomagazine.co.uk/gear-editors-column/chriss-column-mountain-equipment-aerofoil-jacket/
The BD Alpine Start, hooded and unhooded but men's only, are on Sportpursuit at £84 and £65.